Foreign Travel Risk

Overseas Employees at Risk

Undisciplined insurance purchasing practices leave dangerous gaps for expats.
By: | May 24, 2016 • 6 min read

A rogue wave pulled a vacationing military contractor walking on a foreign beach into the ocean. He hit his head on a rock and was paralyzed.

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Because his employer sent him on the trip for some R&R, the contractor’s Foreign Voluntary Workers’ Compensation insurance responded for his medical injuries even though he was vacationing instead of at a job site.

Luckily for the worker, his employer had the right coverage in place to forestall painful financial and health consequences.

But a substantial risk for employees and the companies they work for is that how and when coverage responds overseas often doesn’t track how coverage responds stateside, said Mary Quillen, manager, international workers’ compensation, AkesoCare.

Multinationals tend to carry many overlapping lines of insurance for their overseas business travelers, which is a help.

“You may have six or seven lines of insurance responding to a single claim,” said Logan Payne, assistant vice president, international practice, Lockton.

The primary policies are Foreign Voluntary Worker’s Compensation, Business Travelers Accident, and Kidnap, Ransom and Extortion, Payne said. Purchased effectively the coverages can be powerful. Purchased without the proper consideration, they may suffer from gaps as well as redundancies. Such gaps can cost employees dearly at a desperate time of their lives, Payne said.

To prevent that, he recommends centralizing insurance purchasing for expats instead of delegating it piecemeal to departments or regional offices. “Get all the insurance buyers in the same room to reach one comprehensive answer,” he said.

“Who does the traveler call if he loses his prescription drugs or needs medical evacuation? Who does he call if he hears gunshots outside his hotel?” — Chris Chao, senior vice president, Aon

International benefits from domestic health care insurance can range from nonexistent to “pretty good,” said Arno Chrispeels, owner, Health Insurance International. “A plan might cover emergency medical treatment but not evacuation or repatriation,” he said.

Since these are hefty expenses — $20,000 to $100,000 for a helicopter evacuation and $15,000 to $25,000 for repatriation — companies should review their domestic policies and fill in gaps by using international insurance for short- and long-term travelers.

Chris Chao, a senior vice president at Aon, said it is generally the travel assistance provider that keeps expats safe.

“Who does the traveler call if he loses his prescription drugs or needs medical evacuation? Who does he call if he hears gunshots outside his hotel?” Chao asked.

Duties of Care and Loyalty

When companies send workers out of the country, they have a “duty of care” to keep employees safe and healthy, while the expat workers have a “duty of loyalty” to follow their employers’ safety practices. Sometimes this requires workarounds and major effort. For example, said Denise Buckland, senior vice president, operations, International Medical Group, if a worker is diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, doctors will try staged medications.

Denise Buckland, senior vice president, operations, International Medical Group

Denise Buckland, senior vice president, operations, International Medical Group

“You try one, and if it doesn’t work, you try another,” she said. But the options can be very limited.

Let’s say a U.S. employee working in Thailand requires the injectable Humira to manage her condition, and no other drug gives her the relief she needs. Humira is illegal in Thailand, however. The carrier could contact the Thai and U.S. governments to help the employee get an importer’s license, but in the meantime, Buckland said, “the worker may get so sick that she has to go home.”

Especially in regions where the medical infrastructure is underdeveloped by Western standards, an acute but treatable event, such as a compound bone fracture, could quickly escalate into a life-threatening medical issue, said Alison Swanz, senior consultant, Arthur J. Gallagher & Co.

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Duty of care is still an “unregulated philosophy,” said Hart Brown, senior vice president, practice leader, organizational resilience, HUB International. It depends on a number of interrelated steps, beginning with a vetted travel assistance provider and adequate insurance.

An employer “hasn’t met its duty of care” if its travel assistance provider does not have the right protocols or its expats don’t know the provider’s toll-free number, he said.

“Compliance is hard to enforce. You can’t sit on an adult to make him take his meds.” — Alison Swanz, senior consultant, Arthur J. Gallagher & Co.

Coverage gaps and potential risks should be exposed in a thorough pre-trip screening, said Rob Howard, director of corporate sales, GeoBlue, a major provider of international insurance for expatriates.

When employees need medical help while on assignment, carriers will tap their provider networks to find care equivalent to what they would get at home, said Howard.

Pre-assignment evaluations should extend beyond known health issues, said Nick Dobelbower, vice president, global benefits practice, Lockton, to include language training if necessary, and alert the traveler to cultural differences and sensitivities.

Chris Chao, senior vice president, Aon

Chris Chao, senior vice president, Aon

The onus is on the employee to make a responsible decision whether to go on an overseas assignment. Sometimes, employees should decline assignments, Swanz said. A worker with asthma probably shouldn’t accept an offer in Beijing, where air pollution is a health hazard.

“An executive expat assignment is a huge investment for the company,” Howard said, and may include high compensation, language training, housing, security, a driver and private schools.

To recoup that investment, companies expect an executive assignment to last three to five years, but more than 50 percent end in failure after six to nine months. Among the top reasons for failure are the expat’s benefits package and health care, according to Cigna’s “2015 Global Mobility Survey.”

Duty of care and duty of loyalty should align during pre-trip planning, said Howard. He recommends a sit-down orientation with travelers as a group before they leave to review the size and scope of risks.

Other issues such as domestic employees can arise, Chrispeels said. “Employees may think they have international coverage for the entire household [such as nannies], but they don’t.”

The organization should also consider issues such as family mental health problems. A one-on-one meeting or a follow-up phone call may bring issues to light when travelers have medical issues they don’t want to share with a group.

One aspect of an employee’s duty of loyalty applies to medical compliance, especially to taking prescribed medications for common diseases such as heart conditions or asthma.

Alison Swanz, senior consultant, Arthur J. Gallagher & Co.

Alison Swanz, senior consultant, Arthur J. Gallagher & Co.

“Compliance is hard to enforce. You can’t sit on an adult to make him take his meds,” Swanz said.

U.S. companies that send U.S. citizens overseas are subject to the Affordable Care Act, but the law is so complex — despite Congress’ attempt at guidance in the Expatriate Health Coverage Clarification Act of 2014 (EHCCA) — that “people get glassy-eyed looking at it,” said Mark Holloway, senior vice president, co-director, compliance services, Lockton.

Holloway recommends that companies write their expat coverage on U.S. paper as a practical way to satisfy the individual mandate — but to work with professionals who deal in expatriate insurance every day.

“Companies will want to work with a broker or counsel who plays in the sandbox because it’s such an arcane area of the law.”

Susannah Levine writes about health care, education and technology. She can be reached at [email protected]

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Exclusive | Hank Greenberg on China Trade, Starr’s Rapid Growth and 100th, Spitzer, Schneiderman and More

In a robust and frank conversation, the insurance legend provides unique insights into global trade, his past battles and what the future holds for the industry and his company.
By: | October 12, 2018 • 12 min read

In 1960, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg was hired as a vice president of C.V. Starr & Co. At age 35, he had already accomplished a great deal.

He served his country as part of the Allied Forces that stormed the beaches at Normandy and liberated the Nazi death camps. He fought again during the Korean War, earning a Bronze Star. He held a law degree from New York Law School.

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Now he was ready to make his mark on the business world.

Even C.V. Starr himself — who hired Mr. Greenberg and later hand-picked him as the successor to the company he founded in Shanghai in 1919 — could not have imagined what a mark it would be.

Mr. Greenberg began to build AIG as a Starr subsidiary, then in 1969, he took it public. The company would, at its peak, achieve a market cap of some $180 billion and cement its place as the largest insurance and financial services company in history.

This month, Mr. Greenberg travels to China to celebrate the 100th anniversary of C.V. Starr & Co. That visit occurs at a prickly time in U.S.-Sino relations, as the Trump administration levies tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars in Chinese goods and China retaliates.

In September, Risk & Insurance® sat down with Mr. Greenberg in his Park Avenue office to hear his thoughts on the centennial of C.V. Starr, the dynamics of U.S. trade relationships with China and the future of the U.S. insurance industry as it faces the challenges of technology development and talent recruitment and retention, among many others. What follows is an edited transcript of that discussion.


R&I: One hundred years is quite an impressive milestone for any company. Celebrating the anniversary in China signifies the importance and longevity of that relationship. Can you tell us more about C.V. Starr’s history with China?

Hank Greenberg: We have a long history in China. I first went there in 1975. There was little there, but I had business throughout Asia, and I stopped there all the time. I’d stop there a couple of times a year and build relationships.

When I first started visiting China, there was only one state-owned insurance company there, PICC (the People’s Insurance Company of China); it was tiny at the time. We helped them to grow.

I also received the first foreign life insurance license in China, for AIA (The American International Assurance Co.). To date, there has been no other foreign life insurance company in China. It took me 20 years of hard work to get that license.

We also introduced an agency system in China. They had none. Their life company employees would get a salary whether they sold something or not. With the agency system of course you get paid a commission if you sell something. Once that agency system was installed, it went on to create more than a million jobs.

R&I: So Starr’s success has meant success for the Chinese insurance industry as well.

Hank Greenberg: That’s partly why we’re going to be celebrating that anniversary there next month. That celebration will occur alongside that of IBLAC (International Business Leaders’ Advisory Council), an international business advisory group that was put together when Zhu Rongji was the mayor of Shanghai [Zhu is since retired from public life]. He asked me to start that to attract foreign companies to invest in Shanghai.

“It turns out that it is harder [for China] to change, because they have one leader. My guess is that we’ll work it out sooner or later. Trump and Xi have to meet. That will result in some agreement that will get to them and they will have to finish the rest of the negotiations. I believe that will happen.” — Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, chairman and CEO, C.V. Starr & Co. Inc.

Shanghai and China in general were just coming out of the doldrums then; there was a lack of foreign investment. Zhu asked me to chair IBLAC and to help get it started, which I did. I served as chairman of that group for a couple of terms. I am still a part of that board, and it will be celebrating its 30th anniversary along with our 100th anniversary.

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We have a good relationship with China, and we’re candid as you can tell from the op-ed I published in the Wall Street Journal. I’m told that my op-ed was received quite well in China, by both Chinese companies and foreign companies doing business there.

On August 29, Mr. Greenberg published an opinion piece in the WSJ reminding Chinese leaders of the productive history of U.S.-Sino relations and suggesting that Chinese leaders take pragmatic steps to ease trade tensions with the U.S.

R&I: What’s your outlook on current trade relations between the U.S. and China?

Hank Greenberg: As to the current environment, when you are in negotiations, every leader negotiates differently.

President Trump is negotiating based on his well-known approach. What’s different now is that President Xi (Jinping, General Secretary of the Communist Party of China) made himself the emperor. All the past presidents in China before the revolution had two terms. He’s there for life, which makes things much more difficult.

R&I: Sure does. You’ve got a one- or two-term president talking to somebody who can wait it out. It’s definitely unique.

Hank Greenberg: So, clearly a lot of change is going on in China. Some of it is good. But as I said in the op-ed, China needs to be treated like the second largest economy in the world, which it is. And it will be the number one economy in the world in not too many years. That means that you can’t use the same terms of trade that you did 25 or 30 years ago.

They want to have access to our market and other markets. Fine, but you have to have reciprocity, and they have not been very good at that.

R&I: What stands in the way of that happening?

Hank Greenberg: I think there are several substantial challenges. One, their structure makes it very difficult. They have a senior official, a regulator, who runs a division within the government for insurance. He keeps that job as long as he does what leadership wants him to do. He may not be sure what they want him to do.

For example, the president made a speech many months ago saying they are going to open up banking, insurance and a couple of additional sectors to foreign investment; nothing happened.

The reason was that the head of that division got changed. A new administrator came in who was not sure what the president wanted so he did nothing. Time went on and the international community said, “Wait a minute, you promised that you were going to do that and you didn’t do that.”

So the structure is such that it is very difficult. China can’t react as fast as it should. That will change, but it is going to take time.

R&I: That’s interesting, because during the financial crisis in 2008 there was talk that China, given their more centralized authority, could react more quickly, not less quickly.

Hank Greenberg: It turns out that it is harder to change, because they have one leader. My guess is that we’ll work it out sooner or later. Trump and Xi have to meet. That will result in some agreement that will get to them and they will have to finish the rest of the negotiations. I believe that will happen.

R&I: Obviously, you have a very unique perspective and experience in China. For American companies coming to China, what are some of the current challenges?

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Hank Greenberg: Well, they very much want to do business in China. That’s due to the sheer size of the country, at 1.4 billion people. It’s a very big market and not just for insurance companies. It’s a whole range of companies that would like to have access to China as easily as Chinese companies have access to the United States. As I said previously, that has to be resolved.

It’s not going to be easy, because China has a history of not being treated well by other countries. The U.S. has been pretty good in that way. We haven’t taken advantage of China.

R&I: Your op-ed was very enlightening on that topic.

Hank Greenberg: President Xi wants to rebuild the “middle kingdom,” to what China was, a great country. Part of that was his takeover of the South China Sea rock islands during the Obama Administration; we did nothing. It’s a little late now to try and do something. They promised they would never militarize those islands. Then they did. That’s a real problem in Southern Asia. The other countries in that region are not happy about that.

R&I: One thing that has differentiated your company is that it is not a public company, and it is not a mutual company. We think you’re the only large insurance company with that structure at that scale. What advantages does that give you?

Hank Greenberg: Two things. First of all, we’re more than an insurance company. We have the traditional investment unit with the insurance company. Then we have a separate investment unit that we started, which is very successful. So we have a source of income that is diverse. We don’t have to underwrite business that is going to lose a lot of money. Not knowingly anyway.

R&I: And that’s because you are a private company?

Hank Greenberg: Yes. We attract a different type of person in a private company.

R&I: Do you think that enables you to react more quickly?

Hank Greenberg: Absolutely. When we left AIG there were three of us. Myself, Howie Smith and Ed Matthews. Howie used to run the internal financials and Ed Matthews was the investment guy coming out of Morgan Stanley when I was putting AIG together. We started with three people and now we have 3,500 and growing.

“I think technology can play a role in reducing operating expenses. In the last 70 years, you have seen the expense ratio of the industry rise, and I’m not sure the industry can afford a 35 percent expense ratio. But while technology can help, some additional fundamental changes will also be required.” — Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, chairman and CEO, C.V. Starr & Co. Inc.

R&I:  You being forced to leave AIG in 2005 really was an injustice, by the way. AIG wouldn’t have been in the position it was in 2008 if you had still been there.

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Hank Greenberg: Absolutely not. We had all the right things in place. We met with the financial services division once a day every day to make sure they stuck to what they were supposed to do. Even Hank Paulson, the Secretary of Treasury, sat on the stand during my trial and said that if I’d been at the company, it would not have imploded the way it did.

R&I: And that fateful decision the AIG board made really affected the course of the country.

Hank Greenberg: So many people lost all of their net worth. The new management was taking on billions of dollars’ worth of risk with no collateral. They had decimated the internal risk management controls. And the government takeover of the company when the financial crisis blew up was grossly unfair.

From the time it went public, AIG’s value had increased from $300 million to $180 billion. Thanks to Eliot Spitzer, it’s now worth a fraction of that. His was a gross misuse of the Martin Act. It gives the Attorney General the power to investigate without probable cause and bring fraud charges without having to prove intent. Only in New York does the law grant the AG that much power.

R&I: It’s especially frustrating when you consider the quality of his own character, and the scandal he was involved in.

In early 2008, Spitzer was caught on a federal wiretap arranging a meeting with a prostitute at a Washington Hotel and resigned shortly thereafter.

Hank Greenberg: Yes. And it’s been successive. Look at Eric Schneiderman. He resigned earlier this year when it came out that he had abused several women. And this was after he came out so strongly against other men accused of the same thing. To me it demonstrates hypocrisy and abuse of power.

Schneiderman followed in Spitzer’s footsteps in leveraging the Martin Act against numerous corporations to generate multi-billion dollar settlements.

R&I: Starr, however, continues to thrive. You said you’re at 3,500 people and still growing. As you continue to expand, how do you deal with the challenge of attracting talent?

Hank Greenberg: We did something last week.

On September 16th, St. John’s University announced the largest gift in its 148-year history. The Starr Foundation donated $15 million to the school, establishing the Maurice R. Greenberg Leadership Initiative at St. John’s School of Risk Management, Insurance and Actuarial Science.

Hank Greenberg: We have recruited from St. John’s for many, many years. These are young people who want to be in the insurance industry. They don’t get into it by accident. They study to become proficient in this and we have recruited some very qualified individuals from that school. But we also recruit from many other universities. On the investment side, outside of the insurance industry, we also recruit from Wall Street.

R&I: We’re very interested in how you and other leaders in this industry view technology and how they’re going to use it.

Hank Greenberg: I think technology can play a role in reducing operating expenses. In the last 70 years, you have seen the expense ratio of the industry rise, and I’m not sure the industry can afford a 35 percent expense ratio. But while technology can help, some additional fundamental changes will also be required.

R&I: So as the pre-eminent leader of the insurance industry, what do you see in terms of where insurance is now and where it’s going?

Hank Greenberg: The country and the world will always need insurance. That doesn’t mean that what we have today is what we’re going to have 25 years from now.

How quickly the change comes and how far it will go will depend on individual companies and individual countries. Some will be more brave than others. But change will take place, there is no doubt about it.

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More will go on in space, there is no question about that. We’re involved in it right now as an insurance company, and it will get broader.

One of the things you have to worry about is it’s now a nuclear world. It’s a more dangerous world. And again, we have to find some way to deal with that.

So, change is inevitable. You need people who can deal with change.

R&I:  Is there anything else, Mr. Greenberg, you want to comment on?

Hank Greenberg: I think I’ve covered it. &

The R&I Editorial Team can be reached at [email protected]