Liz Smith Shares Her Career Shaped by Curiosity, Mentorship and the Evolution of Risk
Risk & Insurance: What was your first job?
Babysitting. I babysat at a very young age — I think I was like 11 or 12. And I was already babysitting multiple neighborhood kids. I had a little company of it. Later in high school I was a veterinary kennel assistant, where I got to be around a lot of animals and clean up a lot of messes, but I enjoyed every moment of it.
R&I: What was your first job in risk management?
I was a double major in physics and art, but I realized a year into it that I didn’t want to be in a lab or teach, so I was like, “What am I going to do with a physics degree?” I switched to an extended art degree, focusing mostly on web design and graphic arts. I was planning for a digital arts role, but as I approached graduation the graphics market was flooded. I had a friend who was like, “Hey, I’m working at Liberty Mutual. I’m adjusting workers’ comp claims. Come over here and adjust workers’ comp claims with me.”
I didn’t really know what I was getting into, but it sounded cool, so right out of school I adjusted workers’ comp claims on the UPS team for Liberty Mutual.
R&I: What is the risk management community doing right?
A lot of risk managers know that we don’t know it all. We need to continue to educate and be educated. I think that’s really important, and that’s a place where we’re all kind of digging in together. For myself, personally, I’m super involved in RIMS and have found great educational and networking opportunities by being a part of the RIMS community since early in my career. I’m currently the president for the RIMS Tampa Bay Chapter and am involved with the national RIMS Public Policy Committee. I also occupy the State of Florida appointed risk management seat on the Board of Governors for the Florida Surplus Lines Service Office (FSLSO). I’m always seeking education through those opportunities and enjoy giving back in a meaningful way.
As an industry, I’ve also seen how our community and risk managers have rallied around bringing students and new talent into risk management and insurance. It has truly been remarkable. The industry as a whole has created numerous opportunities to engage and network with young professional groups, and I think it’s so important as risk managers to give some of your personal time back to students and our industry.
R&I: And what could the risk management community be doing a better job of?
Some areas of risk management have been forced to evolve because our exposures and interconnectedness of exposures have evolved so rapidly. I don’t know if it’s necessarily something that risk managers aren’t doing “right,” but I think that’s a struggle that risk managers have had to tackle head-on. We’re tasked with helping businesses, in general, adapt to a new way of doing things.
R&I: What would you say has been the biggest change in the risk management and insurance industry since you’ve started in it?
I think risk management has evolved over the decades, and we understand now more than ever that our job isn’t necessarily to say “yes” or “no.” Typically, the goal is to try to enable the organization to operate and grow efficiently, and to ensure proper risk transfer is in place to take on new or expanded opportunities. We can create the ability for the business unit to be keen to new potential risks, but a primary discussion point often involves how risks could be transferred or mitigated to enable growth.
R&I: What is one emerging commercial risk that most concerns you? And why?
I’m surely “jumping on the bandwagon,” but it’s what’s going to happen with AI. It’s infiltrating everything that we do and use. I’m curious to see how policy exclusions are going to continue to evolve and what new and emerging gap coverage lines will be created, likely in the surplus lines and alternative markets initially.
R&I: If you could point to one or two mentors who influenced you, who would they be and why?
I’ve had so many fantastic mentors professionally and have been very fortunate working under great leaders on the risk management side of the business.
My current manager at TD SYNNEX, Scott Garman, has definitely influenced me these past few years. He’s absolutely brilliant and was the broker for our company for many years before taking on the head of risk & insurance role here. TD SYNNEX is a large global technology distributor and solutions aggregator in 100 countries, with annual revenues over $60 billion. Being on the broker side before he came to this side of the business, Scott has seen our global insurance program grow from the opposite side of the aisle. He’s really done incredible things with the insurance program here, and I’m lucky to learn from him.
I also had fantastic leadership when I was at PODS Enterprises working in their Risk Management department. I learned a ton from Pat Morea and then Benji Dyches. Pat built an enterprise-wide infrastructure, and it was exciting to be a part of that and learn from her. Benji was definitely the type of leader who would take a step back and evaluate the facts before making decisions. It takes a certain patience to have that discipline. He was really a fantastic manager and mentor too.
R&I: What do you find most fulfilling about your work?
I enjoy working with people and learning from the people around me. It is a people business. Many don’t realize that you’re not just purchasing insurance. You have to have trust between the carrier and the broker and the risk manager. Your carriers and your brokers have to trust that you’re knowledgeable. They have to trust that you’re giving them accurate information, and you have to trust that they’re giving you a fair product in return. You’re buying a promise, so trust is key. &


