PBMs Under Scrutiny

PBM Legislation Worries Workers’ Comp Payers

Legislation to regulate group health pharmacy benefit managers could impact workers' comp payers.
By: | February 5, 2014

Legislation introduced in several states seeking to impose new regulatory authority over group health pharmacy benefit managers could harm workers’ compensation PBMs and claims payers, sources said.

Introduction of similar bills in 11 states has raised concerns among workers’ comp insurers, third party administrators, and some large employers, said Brian Allen, VP of government affairs for Progressive Medical, a workers’ comp PBM.

“We have had customers calling us every day worrying about how it is going to impact us and them,” Allen said. “These are big insurance companies … they are nervous about it and want to know how it’s going to impact them.”

Brian Allen, VP of government affairs for Progressive Medical

Brian Allen, VP of government affairs for Progressive Medical

Overall, it appears the bills seek greater transparency in the way group health PBMs set their pricing, said Joe Paduda, principal at Health Strategy Associates. But group health PBM practices differ substantially from those of workers’ comp PBMs and the bills seek to address issues that “have nothing to do with workers’ comp,” he added.

Yet while the bills appear aimed at practices among PBMs serving the group health industry and not workers’ comp PBMs, Allen and others say a spillover into workers’ comp is possible. So several organizations want language inserted into the bills that would clearly exempt workers’ comp PBMs.

“It appears that workers’ compensation PBMs are not the target of this legislation,” the American Insurance Association said in a statement. “That said, AIA supports efforts to include clear exemptions for workers’ compensation PBMs in these bills in order to clarify legislative intent and avoid any confusion down the road.”

“Community” pharmacies seeking more revenue from products they dispense are supporting the bills that would put PBMs under certain state regulatory agencies, such as pharmacy boards, Allen said.

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State workers’ comp commissions or insurance departments already regulate workers’ comp PBMs, depending on the jurisdiction, Allen explained. But the legislation could add oversight from additional agencies such as state pharmacy boards.

Complying with regulations developed by two distinct agencies with potentially conflicting goals could cause an administrative burden for workers’ comp PBMs, Allen added.

“We want to make sure we are not swept up into crazy regulatory schemes that would be difficult to manage,” he said.

A new oversight body could also decide to impact workers’ comp PBM pricing, which is already regulated by state fee schedules, Allen said.

“If for some reason the pharmacy board said, ‘you have to pay pharmacists more money,’ that potentially would impact our customers because we would have to pass that cost onto payers,” Allen said.

Roberto Ceniceros is senior editor at Risk & Insurance® and chair of the National Workers' Compensation and Disability Conference® & Expo. He can be reached at [email protected] Read more of his columns and features.

Risk Management

The Profession

After 20 years in the business, Navy Pier’s Director of Risk Management values her relationships in the industry more than ever.
By: | June 1, 2017 • 4 min read

R&I: What was your first job?

Working at Dominick’s Finer Foods bagging groceries. Shortly after I was hired, I was promoted to [cashier] and then to a management position. It taught me great responsibility and it helped me develop the leadership skills I still carry today.

R&I: How did you come to work in risk management?

While working for Hyatt Regency McCormick Place Hotel, one of my responsibilities was to oversee the administration of claims. This led to a business relationship with the director of risk management of the organization who actually owned the property. Ultimately, a position became available in her department and the rest is history.

R&I: What is the risk management community doing right?

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The risk management community is doing a phenomenal job in professional development and creating great opportunities for risk managers to network. The development of relationships in this industry is vitally important and by providing opportunities for risk managers to come together and speak about their experiences and challenges is what enables many of us to be able to do our jobs even more effectively.

R&I: What could the risk management community be doing a better job of?

Attracting, educating and retaining young talent. There is this preconceived notion that the insurance industry and risk management are boring and there could be nothing further from the truth.

R&I: What’s been the biggest change in the risk management and insurance industry since you’ve been in it?

In my 20 years in the industry, the biggest change in risk management and the insurance industry are the various types of risk we look to insure against. Many risks that exist today were not even on our radar 20 years ago.

Gina Kirchner, director of risk management, Navy Pier Inc.

R&I: What insurance carrier do you have the highest opinion of?

FM Global. They have been our property carrier for a great number of years and in my opinion are the best in the business.

R&I: Are you optimistic about the US economy or pessimistic and why?

I am optimistic that policies will be put in place with the new administration that will be good for the economy and business.

R&I: What emerging commercial risk most concerns you?

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The commercial risks that are of most concern to me are cyber risks, business interruption, and any form of a health epidemic on a global scale. We are dealing with new exposures and new risks that we are truly not ready for.

R&I: Who is your mentor and why?

My mother has played a significant role in shaping my ideals and values. She truly instilled a very strong work ethic in me. However, there are many men and women in business who have mentored me and have had a significant impact on me and my career as well.

R&I: What have you accomplished that you are proudest of?

I am most proud of making the decision a couple of years ago to return to school and obtain my [MBA]. It took a lot of prayer, dedication and determination to accomplish this while still working a full time job, being involved in my church, studying abroad and maintaining a household.

R&I: What is your favorite book or movie?

“Heaven Is For Real” by Todd Burpo and Lynn Vincent. I loved the book and the movie.

R&I: What’s the best restaurant you’ve ever eaten at?

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A French restaurant in Paris, France named Les Noces de Jeannette Restaurant à Paris. It was the most amazing food and brings back such great memories.

R&I: What is the most unusual/interesting place you have ever visited?

Israel. My husband and I just returned a few days ago and spent time in Jerusalem, Nazareth, Jericho and Jordan. It was an absolutely amazing experience. We did everything from riding camels to taking boat rides on the Sea of Galilee to attending concerts sitting on the Temple steps. The trip was absolutely life changing.

R&I: What is the riskiest activity you ever engaged in?

Many, many years ago … I went parasailing in the Caribbean. I had a great experience and didn’t think about the risk at the time because I was young, single and free. Looking back, I don’t know that I would make the same decision today.

R&I: What about this work do you find the most fulfilling or rewarding?

I would have to say the relationships and partnerships I have developed with insurance carriers, brokers and other professionals in the industry. To have wonderful working relationships with such a vast array of talented individuals who are so knowledgeable and to have some of those relationships develop into true friendships is very rewarding.

R&I: What do your friends and family think you do?

My friends and family have a general idea that my position involves claims and insurance. However, I don’t think they fully understand the magnitude of my responsibilities and the direct impact it has on my organization, which experiences more than 9 million visitors a year.




Katie Siegel is an associate editor at Risk & Insurance®. She can be reached at [email protected]