2018 Power Broker

Employee Benefits

Jennifer Akhter
Senior Vice President
Aon, Dallas

Nontraditional Insurance for Nontraditional Workers

The U.S. Woman’s Chamber of Commerce was looking for health insurance and related education for traditionally uninsured parties, including part-time workers and small women-owned businesses, said Fred Karutz, a third-party consultant.

Together, he and Jennifer Akhter developed solutions.

“Jenn drove creation of the multichannel health care coverage and education campaign,” Karutz said. “She brought industry expertise wrapped around her knowledge of the customer experience to translate what I knew about the consumer health business into thoughtful action for the Women’s Chamber.”

Akhter also helped Uber address workers’ comp. As independent contractors, Uber drivers don’t get benefits.


“We wanted to tackle workers’ comp in an affordable way,” said Patty Daberkow, project manager, Insurance Solutions, Uber Technologies.

In collaboration with Uber and OneBeacon, Akhter created a program to protect drivers. Used with the Uber app, the program offers “benefits” designed for independent workers. Since the program piloted, it has rolled out to more than 30 states.

A company with more than 20,000 employees wanted “affordable, ACA-compliant” health insurance for its part-time and seasonal employees, said its director of benefits.

He turned to Akhter, who established an online environment linking employees to state and federal health care exchanges and to additional carriers providing ACA-compliant plans.

Breaking Protocol

Eric Barthel
Vice President
HUB International, Newport Beach, Calif.

“Eric Barthel helped Stanislaus County, Calif., abandon the ‘normal’ brokerage process, where carriers set the rates and then brokers beat them up,” said Jody Hayes, CEO. Instead, he helped create a nonprofit organization to build its own health plan.

This year, when the county had enough data, Barthel used it to negotiate better contracts with carriers.

“Typically you don’t know what you’ve bought, only the cost of the entire package,” Hayes said. “Eric changed that dynamic. Instead of being in the business of buying health insurance, we are now in the business of buying health care.”

Even allowing for the vagaries of what might have been, Barthel’s strategy brought “substantial” savings: $26 million in 2016 compared to projected costs for the county’s traditional health care program through 2011.

Along the way, inflationary costs fell from an annual average of 11 percent between 2005 and 2011 to 6 percent between 2012 and 2017.

“Eric knows what a broker should know, then a whole lot more,” said Hayes.

That includes providers, said Mary Lou Bennett, board member, Retired Employees of Kern County, Calif., such as the clinics and hospitals Barthel recruits to take blood work and distribute educational information at its health fairs.

“Health fairs can get out of hand because of no-shows,” she said. “Everybody Eric invites always comes through.”

Bennett’s board depends on his negotiation skills. During conferences, Barthel negotiates with the myriad of insurance companies that want to get involved.

Cutting Costs Without Sacrificing Convenience

Angela Bassinger
Senior Consultant
Gallagher, Dallas

“Keeping our employees healthy is a win-win in terms of our workforce and our dollars,” said Mark Browder, CFO, ChildCareGroup. For Browder, maximizing health care dollars with an effective benefits program is especially important because ChildCareGroup is a nonprofit. Every cent counts.

Angela Bassinger helped the company get the most for its money by suggesting a telehealth vendor that would provide added convenience and ultimately decrease expenses on its health plan by reducing the need for doctor or emergency room visits.

From January 2016 to February 2017, the company saved an estimated $132,000 in claims that would have been incurred if the members chose an onsite visit instead of telemedicine.


Bassinger also helped the nonprofit implement a pharmacy advocacy program that evaluates employees’ medications for compliance and suggests lower cost alternatives where possible.

“Angela has also rallied her office to throw some holiday parties for the kids and bring them gifts — so she supports us in other ways outside of providing insurance. She’s got our back,” Browder said.

Bassinger and her team also helped Prospect Airport Services drop their fixed costs on excess insurance by about 15 percent, even while clearing the hurdles of Affordable Care Act compliance.

Delivering in a Turbulent Market

Dustin Brand
Senior Consultant
INSURICA, Oklahoma City

Ongoing efforts to comply with the Affordable Care Act, uncertainty over its future and medical cost inflation all result in an ever-changing marketplace. Entities with limited resources — like municipalities and nonprofits — struggle the most to keep pace.

“Dustin Brand walked us through the market changes. We changed carriers this year and switched to more managed care through an HMO. There were more restrictions, and presenting plan changes to employees can be very sensitive and emotional.

“Dustin was there to address each employee’s questions,” said Janice Cain, city manager, the city of Altus in Oklahoma.

Brand implemented a similar change for Goodwill of Oklahoma. The organization’s health care costs were burgeoning due to both expanded eligibility under the Affordable Care Act and to largely unmanaged emergency medical care and pharmacy utilization.

Brand was able to partner the nonprofit with an Accountable Care Organization, which offered an HMO that introduced more medical management into the plan. This helped to control costs while still allowing employees the flexibility of using urgent care services and a few other specialists without a referral.

Brand was also able to secure around $200,000 in premium subsidies from the state’s Insure Oklahoma program. In the end, he and his INSURICA team saved Goodwill close to $1 million.

“He is very knowledgeable and is an expert in the field. He presents information well on the options available and can identify the issues we may encounter up front,” Cain said.

Deep Dive Into Client Needs

Matthew Creighton
Senior Vice President
HUB International, San Diego

“Matt Creighton understands us,” said Trish Besaw, director, human resources, Family Health Centers of San Diego.

While higher rates prevail, HUB International’s Creighton redesigned the nonprofit’s health plan, which had taken hits from expensive claims, offering better benefits at a reduced renewal rate.

And he found health coverage allowing employees, many of whom live in or near Mexico, to use Mexico’s affordable medical and dental facilities while still allowing emergency care in California.

In time for Welk Resorts’ open enrollment, said Tracy Ward, vice president, corporate culture, Creighton and his team created a benefits microsite, an online version of its benefits platform, enabling mobile access with links to websites and carrier contacts.


With Creighton’s help, Welk also introduced a wellness portal to replace its onsite classes, improving participation across the company’s multiple locations. He also helped launch an initiative to analyze workforce productivity and absence management.

“He poured a lot of effort into bringing these projects to fruition,” said Ward.

When Rivulis Irrigation spun off from John Deere, the new company needed to find an equivalent benefits package as quickly as possible for its already shaken employees, said Nannette Doolittle, human resources manager.

“We needed a quality broker to find good insurance and make quick, smart decisions,” Doolittle said. “Matt worked hard and fast. He’s very detail oriented.”

Taking the Long View

Suzanne McGarey, CEBS, CLU
Managing Principal
EPIC/Ascende, Houston

A private equity firm in Oklahoma had a unique problem. They did not have a competitive employee benefits program, because they didn’t need one.

The successful firm had no trouble recruiting employees, and the prestige of working there overshadowed any concerns employees might have had about their benefits, or lack thereof.

But then the leadership changed, and the firm’s reputation took a hit. Now if the company wanted to recruit the best of the best, it needed to revamp its benefits offering. Enter Suzanne McGarey, CEBS, CLU, and her team at Ascende.

“As a PE firm, every dime we spend is scrutinized by our equity partners, so we have to keep costs low while still offering competitive benefit plans. So we have to determine what employees find valuable.

Ascende helped us conduct a survey of our employees so we could get a feel for what matters to them,” said the firm’s VP of human resources and administration.

McGarey also helps her clients develop long-term plan strategies.

When HR technology company Empyrean Benefit Solutions debated whether to switch from an unpopular high-deductible plan back to a PPO, McGarey helped them to recognize that the problem was not the plan but the education being provided to employees.

She helped Empyrean communicate with and market the plan to its employees. She also helped them implement a wellness program that rewards participants with a few dollars each day deposited in their health savings accounts.

“The program rewards positive behavior rather than punishing lack of participation.”

The Advocate Clients Count On

Tracie McPherson
Area President
Gallagher, Madison, Miss.

Forrest General Hospital needed to reduce the cost of prescription drugs as part of its $25 million-plus medical plan.

Working with the hospital’s internal pharmacy staff, employee health and pharmacy benefits managers, Tracie McPherson helped it negotiate some of the nation’s lowest prescription drug costs with a new pharmacy benefit manager while preserving grandfathered status on the plan, said Troy Daniels, VP and CHRO, Forrest General.

After accomplishing the new pharmacy benefit structure and better financial arrangements, “She approached me about expanding employee health to virtual visits to accomplish additional savings at our outlying facilities,” Daniels said.

For business reasons, St. Dominic Health Services switched to a TPA better known for being a health insurance company. The transition was “an absolute mess,” said Diedra Bell, CFO. They had problems moving data and setting up the plan in the TPA’s system.


“Tracie spent hours with the new TPA about how to administer our plan,” Bell said. “She went to bat for us on customer service and how to adjudicate our claims.”

There’s more. To help mitigate a significant projected cost increase in its medical plan, McPherson worked with St. Dominic’s executive benefits committee to negotiate better arrangements with a pharmacy benefit manager. The new program is on target to generate savings of more than 20 percent on prescription drugs.

“Tracie is a strong advocate. She won’t let go until she’s found the best solution for us.”

Managing the Benefits Balancing Act

John Mejasic
Voluntary Benefits Specialist
Gallagher, Radnor, Pa.

An employee health care program needs to balance the financial considerations of the employer with the needs and demands of its workers. As health care costs show no signs of coming down, the task is often onerous and unpleasant.

But for his clients, Gallagher’s John Mejasic has demonstrated tireless effort to make both sides happy.

When Temple University Health System wanted to offer their health plan as a group policy as well as an individual policy, Mejasic went to every employee already enrolled in the individual policy and helped them to assess whether they could benefit by switching to the group plan.

That level of involvement not only helped employees better understand their options but also helped Temple maximize their health care spend so that enrollees got the most benefits for their buck.

But employee benefits go beyond medical, dental and vision care. Mejasic also helped some clients build student loan and tuition assistance programs.

“He has found us some excellent deals on those programs. We’ll be rolling it out mid-year, and I think it will be well-received by our employees,” said Charelle Hirsh, director of compensation & benefits, Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories.

“We’ve also added a second opinion resource through Pinnacle Health, offered under critical illness coverage. It’s offered remotely, so employees don’t have to travel to consult with a second expert.”

Not Your Average Actuary

Martin Molloy, FSA
Associate Partner
Aon, Columbus, Ohio

Martin Molloy, a Fellow in the Society of Actuaries, put his analytical and mathematical skills to good use for Trelleborg Coated Systems US, Inc. The company had inherited a pension plan from an acquired entity that had no clear summary in its plan document.

“It was mostly boiler plate language,” said Eden Isbell, HR director, Trelleborg. “There were certain ways we had to calculate things based on that language, instead of how our previous actuary had done it before.

“Molloy understood the plan document, and how the previous actuary had operated, and what we needed to be able to amend.”

He brought in an ERISA attorney to make amendments to the plan document and helped to draft new language that more accurately represented how the plan was accounted for.


“When I have questions about things I don’t understand, Martin can explain things clearly and thoroughly without making me feel inadequate. And he always makes himself available to meet with our pension committee,” Isbell said.

“He works with us and our ERISA attorney to make sure our documents are fully compliant.”

He did the same for Motorists Mutual Insurance Company when it merged with another business and needed to adjust the way it accounted for health plan costs.

Motorists also needed to reduce its workforce after the merger and implemented an early retirement incentive to do so, which made the accounting method change more challenging. Molloy helped the company accurately capture costs related to paying out retirement benefits.

No Task Too Demanding

Vali Nourishad, ARM, CEBS
Mercer Health and Benefits, Irvine, Calif.

Vali Nourishad comes through for demanding customers, said David Henry, vice president human resources, Foundation Building Materials — a self-described demanding customer.

Henry wanted a value-based employee benefits program. He solicited employee comments and entertained every suggestion as the company shrugged off its existing benefits package: Free life insurance? Free long-term disability? Maybe.

The team had 60 days to market, select, design and roll out the program. Every juncture allowed two hours for review, modification and vetting. Too ambitious, said a number of brokers Henry considered. When can I start? Nourishad asked.

Despite acquisitions two weeks into the RFP that added thousands of employees and incomplete historical data, Nourishad helped executive stakeholders make decisions in time for a successful implementation and open enrollment.

Vesna Mardjonovic, total rewards manager, Zodiac Pool Solutions North America, is another self-described tough customer. “I’m a New Yorker,” she explained.

Zodiac was reviewing its employee benefits from the ground up. In two weeks, Nourishad presented 64 options for executive review.

It gave employees a benefits allowance that they could spend according to their own needs, including high- and low-deductible plans, medical, dental, vision and flexible spending accounts.

“Our CFO was amazed,” Mardjonovic said.

Won’t Take ‘No’

Beth Vernon
Senior Account Executive
Gallagher, Pittsburgh

“Not my job” is not in Beth Vernon’s vocabulary, said Dawn Rice, benefits manager, Nemacolin Woodlands Resort.

In the first year of her tenure as broker, Vernon went head-to-head with the carrier to get a 17.9 percent overall health insurance rate decrease, a two-year rate guarantee and a wellness incentive that wasn’t even on the prior broker’s radar.

And because the owner “really wraps her arms” around employees, Vernon had the carrier’s vice president on the phone regarding an employee’s spouse’s hospital admission.

Vernon also interceded in a 29-year associate’s eye surgery: “Beth arranged the visit with the low-vision specialist,” Rice said. “She made a difference in the treatment plan.”

Her willingness to fight in the trenches makes a difference in carriers’ willingness to cover experimental treatments, said an attorney with Babst Calland Attorneys at Law.

For example, the carrier for a shareholder’s child, who had a dismal prognosis for muscular dystrophy, refused experimental treatment coverage. Vernon interceded, moving up the carrier’s executive chain. It finally agreed to cover the drug for a year.

Now the child can raise his arms and offer some muscular resistance, feed himself and play video games, greatly improving his quality of life.

“Beth will advocate again,” the attorney said. He’s hopeful that success with the first experimental treatment will ease resistance in the future. “She has the tenacity and persuasive skills to do it. She’s a mild-mannered pit bull.”

Making the Complex Simple

Regina Walsh
Area Vice President
Gallagher, Philadelphia

Law firms have unique obligations when it comes to their benefit structures, because partners utilize them as investment vehicles and they may intertwine with pension plans. Managing the moving parts requires technical expertise and the ability to explain any changes in layman’s terms.

“We were not happy with one of our existing programs. We were paying a lot for insurance. Some of our partners were still underinsured. Some used it as an investment vehicle, and the investments were continually misallocated,” said Richard Rowe, executive director, Wilentz, Goldman & Spitzer, P.A.

“Regina came up with three to five alternate plans and presented them to the management committee. She was able to establish a relaxed atmosphere from the start and earned their trust. She corrected misunderstandings that some partners had about both the existing and the new product.”

Ultimately, Walsh saved the firm $1.5 million in premiums by restructuring the program without changing or removing any of the benefits for partners.

Another law firm also needed help educating its partners about their options, especially since the firm has a complex pension structure. Walsh came through for that firm as well, said Dennis Foley, treasurer, Weil, Gotshal & Manges.

“Regina helps find the most cost-effective life insurance coverage, navigates potential minefields and thoughtfully answers our questions.”


Catherine Borbone
Executive Vice President
Alliant Insurance Services, Alpharetta, Ga.

Nicole Negvesky
Area Senior Vice President
Gallagher, Tampa, Fla.

Edward J. O’Malley, RHU, CLU
Mid Atlantic Region Practice Leader
Gallagher, Mount Laurel, N.J.

Randy Rider
Senior Vice President, Employee Benefits
HUB International, Newport Beach, Calif.

Mary Alice Sexton
Executive Vice President
Krauter & Company, New York

Teri Weber
Partner and Senior Consultant
Spring Consulting Group, Boston












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Risk Report: Marine

Crewless Ships Raise Questions

Is a remote operator legally a master? New technology confounds old terms.
By: | March 5, 2018 • 6 min read

For many developers, the accelerating development of remote-controlled and autonomous ships represents what could be the dawn of a new era. For underwriters and brokers, however, such vessels could represent the end of thousands of years of maritime law and risk management.

Rod Johnson, director of marine risk management, RSA Global Risk

While crewless vessels have yet to breach commercial service, there are active testing programs. Most brokers and underwriters expect small-scale commercial operations to be feasible in a few years, but that outlook only considers technical feasibility. How such operations will be insured remains unclear.

“I have been giving this a great deal of thought, this sits on my desk every day,” said Rod Johnson, director of marine risk management, RSA Global Risk, a major UK underwriter. Johnson sits on the loss-prevention committee of the International Union of Maritime Insurers.

“The agreed uncertainty that underpins marine insurance is falling away, but we are pretending that it isn’t. The contractual framework is being made less relevant all the time.”

Defining Autonomous Vessels

Two types of crewless vessels are being contemplated. First up is a drone with no one on board but actively controlled by a human at a remote command post on land or even on another vessel.

While some debate whether the controllers of drone aircrafts are pilots or operators, the very real question yet to be addressed is if a vessel controller is legally a “master” under maritime law.


The other type of crewless vessel would be completely autonomous, with the onboard systems making decisions about navigation, weather and operations.

Advocates tout the benefits of larger cargo capacity without crew spaces, including radically different hull designs without decks people can walk on. Doubters note a crew can fix things at sea while a ship cannot.

Rolls-Royce is one of the major proponents and designers. The company tested a remote-controlled tug in Copenhagen in June 2017.

“We think the initial early adopters will be vessels operating on fixed routes within coastal waters under the jurisdiction of flag states,” the company said.

“We expect to see the first autonomous vessel in commercial operation by the end of the decade. Further out, around 2025, we expect autonomous vessels to operate further from shore — perhaps coastal cargo ships. For ocean-going vessels to be autonomous, it will require a change in international regulations, so this will take longer.”

Once autonomous ships are a reality, “the entire current legal framework for maritime law and insurance is done,” said Johnson. “The master has not been replaced; he is just gone. Commodity ships (bulk carriers) would be most amenable to that technology. I’m not overly bothered by fully automated ships, but I am extremely bothered by heavily automated ones.”

He cited two risks specifically: hacking and fire.

“We expect to see the first autonomous vessel in commercial operation by the end of the decade. Further out, around 2025, we expect autonomous vessels to operate further from shore — perhaps coastal cargo ships. For ocean-going vessels to be autonomous, it will require a change in international regulations, so this will take longer.” — Rolls-Royce Holdings study

Andrew Kinsey, senior marine risk consultant, Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty, asked an even more existential question: “From an insurance standpoint, are we even still talking about a vessel as it is under law? Starting with the legal framework, the duty of a flag state is ‘manning of ships.’ What about the duty to render assistance? There cannot be insurance coverage of an illegal contract.”

Several sources noted that the technological development of crewless ships, while impressive, seems to be a solution in search of a problem. There is no known need in the market; no shippers, operators, owners or mariners advocate that crewless ships will solve their problems.

Kinsey takes umbrage at the suggestion that promotional material on crewless vessels cherry picks his company’s data, which found 75 percent to 90 percent of marine losses are caused by human error.


“Removing the humans from the vessels does not eliminate the human error. It just moves the human error from the helm to the coder. The reports on development by the companies with a vested interest [in crewless vessels] tend to read a lot like advertisements. The pressure for this is not coming from the end users.”

To be sure, Kinsey is a proponent of automation and technology when applied prudently, believing automation can make strides in areas of the supply chains. Much of the talk about automation is trying to bury the serious shortage of qualified crews. It also overshadows the very real potential for blockchain technology to overhaul the backend of marine insurance.

As a marine surveyor, Kinsey said he can go down to the wharf, inspect cranes, vessels and securements, and supervise loading and unloading — but he can’t inspect computer code or cyber security.

New Times, New Risks

In all fairness, insurance language has changed since the 17th century, especially as technology races ahead in the 21st.

“If you read any hull form, it’s practically Shakespearean,” said Stephen J. Harris, senior vice president of marine protection UK, Marsh. “The language is no longer fit for purpose. Our concern specifically to this topic is that the antiquated language talks about crew being on board. If they are not on board, do they still legally count as crew?”

Harris further questioned, “Under hull insurance, and provided that the ship owner has acted diligently, cover is extended to negligence of the master or crew. Does that still apply if the captain is not on board but sitting at a desk in an office?”

Andrew Kinsey, senior marine risk consultant, Allianz Global Corporate & Specialty

Several sources noted that a few international organizations, notably the Comite Maritime International and the International Maritime Organization, “have been very active in asking the legal profession around the world about their thoughts. The interpretations vary greatly. The legal complications of crewless vessels are actually more complicated than the technology.”

For example, if the operational, insurance and regulatory entities in two countries agree on the voyage of a crewless vessel across the ocean, a mishap or storm could drive the vessel into port or on shore of a third country that does not recognize those agreements.

“What worries insurers is legal uncertainty,” said Harris.

“If an operator did everything fine but a system went down, then most likely the designer would be responsible. But even if a designer explicitly accepted responsibility, what matters would be the flag state’s law in international waters and the local state’s law in territorial waters.


“We see the way ahead for this technology as local and short-sea operations. The law has to catch up with the technology, and it is showing no signs of doing so.”

Thomas M. Boudreau, head of specialty insurance, The Hartford, suggested that remote ferry operations could be the most appropriate use: “They travel fixed routes, all within one country’s waters.”

There could also be environmental and operational benefits from using battery power rather than conventional fuels.

“In terms of underwriting, the burden would shift to the manufacturer and designer of the operating systems,” Boudreau added.

It may just be, he suggested, that crewless ships are merely replacing old risks with new ones. Crews can deal with small repairs, fires or leaks at sea, but small conditions such as those can go unchecked and endanger the whole ship and cargo.

“The cyber risk is also concerning. The vessel may be safe from physical piracy, but what about hacking?” &

Gregory DL Morris is an independent business journalist based in New York with 25 years’ experience in industry, energy, finance and transportation. He can be reached at [email protected]