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Applying Underwriting Heritage in New Markets

Swiss Re Corporate Solutions is building on their complex claims legacy and expending it outward, leveraging their expertise and support to branch into the primary casualty market.
By: | June 13, 2017 • 6 min read

If you want to build a world class insurer with a full suite of offerings and a global reach, there are a just a few things you’ll need: underwriting discipline, risk management experience, a strong balance sheet, a broad risk appetite, and excellent claims handling and customer service.

These components may seem commonsense. They are, after all, what every broker or risk manager is looking for in a carrier.

But perfecting each piece is anything but common.

Swiss Re Corporate Solutions was launched in 2010 with the goal of becoming a top ten player in commercial insurance globally. Through the unique heritage of its parent company Swiss Re, it had access to these key ingredients and used them to embark on a methodical journey of expansion, by line of coverage.

Building on Swiss Re’s area of expertise, Corporate Solutions started at the top, writing the most challenging and complex risks for large companies. Their status as a net capacity provider also enabled the latitude and flexibility to take this approach.

They then worked downward and outward, branching off from wholesale excess and specialty coverage, ultimately into the primary market.

“Casualty started that journey in 2009 with our lead U.S. umbrella product, which is exclusively a retail product with a focus on large risk management business,” said Robley Moor, Head, North America Casualty, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions. “Now we are trying to reach a wider variety of brokers and expand in the middle market.”  Simultaneously, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions has launched a new U.S. domestic primary general liability product.

Supporting Global Programs with Underwriting Acumen

Robley Moor, Head, North America Casualty

Through the build out of a robust international network and leading edge technology, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions aspires to be their clients’ market of choice for their domestic and international primary insurance needs across various lines of coverage.  Today, they offer this capability for their property single carrier coverage.

“We are building our own foreign casualty product network through local offices around the world,” said Moor. “At the moment, the new U.S. primary casualty product allows the North American team to support international colleagues on a ‘reverse-flow’ basis.”

In an age when nearly every mid-size and large company has some type of international exposure, the ability to offer comprehensive coverage and services around the globe will be a key to further expansion.

Current adverse market conditions make the new product expansion risky, but a 20-year history of primary GL underwriting alleviates some of the uncertainty.

“We’re in a very soft part of the market cycle and any new product launch needs to be aware of that reality,” Moor said. “But when you write products in a sustainable fashion and take a long term view, there never really is a bad time to enter the market.”

A new dedicated team of underwriters in New York, Atlanta, Chicago and Los Angeles for the retail primary product, separate from established E&S teams, ensures that both distribution channels receive the full attention and expertise of its underwriters.

Expert Services

Mike Kwan, Head, Primary & Specialty Casualty, North America

In the excess space, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions has developed claims expertise as well as risk engineering and crisis management services that it can bring to bear on its primary clients. The highly rated claims team is comprised of 120 professionals in North America with an average of 20 years of industry experience. This year, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions was awarded the Risk Manager Choice Award for No. 1 carrier on eight key factors, including claims handling.

“From an excess perspective, we consistently see how clients’ loss experiences could have benefitted from having our claims professionals involved at the primary level,” said Mike Kwan, Head of Primary & Specialty Casualty, North America, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions.

“It serves both the customers’ and our best interests to have our Swiss Re claims expertise come to bear on that first layer of risk transfer,” he said.

Their overall claims philosophy and approach is articulated through the company’s Claims Commitment, a pillar of the Swiss Re Corporate Solutions offering in both the excess and primary space. This commitment promises speed of service and communicating with policyholders early and often once a loss notification comes in. Initial investigations typically take no longer than 30 days, and in the event of an insured first-party property loss, they will advance payment of up to 50 percent of their estimate.

“We know that the claims experience leaves a lasting impression. Even a positive outcome can be soured by a difficult experience with your claims representative,” Kwan said. “We can leverage the heritage of Swiss Re in large, complex claims to deliver high-quality service to our primary partners.”

In addition, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions also brings plenty of experience to primary GL business.  Though considered a new product for retail clients, Corporate Solutions has amassed over $1 billion in written premium of GL business through the E&S marketplace. The new underwriting department, located in most of the major regions across the country, will look to carry over this depth of knowledge and experience.

With a move into the primary market, crisis management and loss control advisory services honed for excess and specialty customers will be offered to primary policyholders.

“Last year we brought on a whole team of crisis management underwriters and contracted with a leading crisis management firm to support that effort. We are in the process of developing a companion product for the new primary general liability policy that will provide enhanced crisis management services,” Moor said.

A Full Suite of Products

The new primary policy rounds out Swiss Re Corporate Solutions’ suite of products, which can both serve middle market companies looking for primary GL coverage and provide additional support and continuity for existing excess buyers.  The primary product will be offered on both a loss sensitive basis and a guaranteed cost basis.

“From a risk management or broker standpoint, it’s as close to one stop shopping as you could possibly want. Even as your needs go beyond casualty,” Moor said. “There’s also a benefit to existing casualty customers to have the same carrier handle both excess and primary coverage. If there is a claim, you can avoid carriers fighting over who is paying what.”

With financial ratings of “AA-” by Standard & Poor’s, “Aa3” by Moody’s and “A+” by A.M. Best, Swiss Re Corporate Solutions can also back up its ability to pay claims.

“That is, of course, the number one priority for risk managers and brokers,” Kwan said.

The recent launch of the primary general liability coverage – which is already attracting interest in the market – will also provide a path forward into other product lines, like auto liability, in the future, Moor said.

“Those are future builds for us. But for right now, general liability is an extension of our current expertise.”

To learn more, visit https://corporatesolutions.swissre.com/insurance/casualty/.

Insurance products underwritten by Westport Insurance Corporation, Overland Park, Kansas, a member of Swiss Re Corporate Solutions. This article is intended to be used for general informational purposes only and is not to be relied upon or used for any particular purpose.  Swiss Re shall not be held responsible in any way for, and specifically disclaims any liability arising out of or in any way connected to, reliance on or use of any of the information contained or referenced in this article.  The information contained or referenced in this article is not intended to constitute and should not be considered legal, accounting or professional advice, nor shall it serve as a substitute for the recipient obtaining such advice.

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Exclusive | Hank Greenberg on China Trade, Starr’s Rapid Growth and 100th, Spitzer, Schneiderman and More

In a robust and frank conversation, the insurance legend provides unique insights into global trade, his past battles and what the future holds for the industry and his company.
By: | October 12, 2018 • 12 min read

In 1960, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg was hired as a vice president of C.V. Starr & Co. At age 35, he had already accomplished a great deal.

He served his country as part of the Allied Forces that stormed the beaches at Normandy and liberated the Nazi death camps. He fought again during the Korean War, earning a Bronze Star. He held a law degree from New York Law School.

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Now he was ready to make his mark on the business world.

Even C.V. Starr himself — who hired Mr. Greenberg and later hand-picked him as the successor to the company he founded in Shanghai in 1919 — could not have imagined what a mark it would be.

Mr. Greenberg began to build AIG as a Starr subsidiary, then in 1969, he took it public. The company would, at its peak, achieve a market cap of some $180 billion and cement its place as the largest insurance and financial services company in history.

This month, Mr. Greenberg travels to China to celebrate the 100th anniversary of C.V. Starr & Co. That visit occurs at a prickly time in U.S.-Sino relations, as the Trump administration levies tariffs on hundreds of billions of dollars in Chinese goods and China retaliates.

In September, Risk & Insurance® sat down with Mr. Greenberg in his Park Avenue office to hear his thoughts on the centennial of C.V. Starr, the dynamics of U.S. trade relationships with China and the future of the U.S. insurance industry as it faces the challenges of technology development and talent recruitment and retention, among many others. What follows is an edited transcript of that discussion.


R&I: One hundred years is quite an impressive milestone for any company. Celebrating the anniversary in China signifies the importance and longevity of that relationship. Can you tell us more about C.V. Starr’s history with China?

Hank Greenberg: We have a long history in China. I first went there in 1975. There was little there, but I had business throughout Asia, and I stopped there all the time. I’d stop there a couple of times a year and build relationships.

When I first started visiting China, there was only one state-owned insurance company there, PICC (the People’s Insurance Company of China); it was tiny at the time. We helped them to grow.

I also received the first foreign life insurance license in China, for AIA (The American International Assurance Co.). To date, there has been no other foreign life insurance company in China. It took me 20 years of hard work to get that license.

We also introduced an agency system in China. They had none. Their life company employees would get a salary whether they sold something or not. With the agency system of course you get paid a commission if you sell something. Once that agency system was installed, it went on to create more than a million jobs.

R&I: So Starr’s success has meant success for the Chinese insurance industry as well.

Hank Greenberg: That’s partly why we’re going to be celebrating that anniversary there next month. That celebration will occur alongside that of IBLAC (International Business Leaders’ Advisory Council), an international business advisory group that was put together when Zhu Rongji was the mayor of Shanghai [Zhu is since retired from public life]. He asked me to start that to attract foreign companies to invest in Shanghai.

“It turns out that it is harder [for China] to change, because they have one leader. My guess is that we’ll work it out sooner or later. Trump and Xi have to meet. That will result in some agreement that will get to them and they will have to finish the rest of the negotiations. I believe that will happen.” — Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, chairman and CEO, C.V. Starr & Co. Inc.

Shanghai and China in general were just coming out of the doldrums then; there was a lack of foreign investment. Zhu asked me to chair IBLAC and to help get it started, which I did. I served as chairman of that group for a couple of terms. I am still a part of that board, and it will be celebrating its 30th anniversary along with our 100th anniversary.

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We have a good relationship with China, and we’re candid as you can tell from the op-ed I published in the Wall Street Journal. I’m told that my op-ed was received quite well in China, by both Chinese companies and foreign companies doing business there.

On August 29, Mr. Greenberg published an opinion piece in the WSJ reminding Chinese leaders of the productive history of U.S.-Sino relations and suggesting that Chinese leaders take pragmatic steps to ease trade tensions with the U.S.

R&I: What’s your outlook on current trade relations between the U.S. and China?

Hank Greenberg: As to the current environment, when you are in negotiations, every leader negotiates differently.

President Trump is negotiating based on his well-known approach. What’s different now is that President Xi (Jinping, General Secretary of the Communist Party of China) made himself the emperor. All the past presidents in China before the revolution had two terms. He’s there for life, which makes things much more difficult.

R&I: Sure does. You’ve got a one- or two-term president talking to somebody who can wait it out. It’s definitely unique.

Hank Greenberg: So, clearly a lot of change is going on in China. Some of it is good. But as I said in the op-ed, China needs to be treated like the second largest economy in the world, which it is. And it will be the number one economy in the world in not too many years. That means that you can’t use the same terms of trade that you did 25 or 30 years ago.

They want to have access to our market and other markets. Fine, but you have to have reciprocity, and they have not been very good at that.

R&I: What stands in the way of that happening?

Hank Greenberg: I think there are several substantial challenges. One, their structure makes it very difficult. They have a senior official, a regulator, who runs a division within the government for insurance. He keeps that job as long as he does what leadership wants him to do. He may not be sure what they want him to do.

For example, the president made a speech many months ago saying they are going to open up banking, insurance and a couple of additional sectors to foreign investment; nothing happened.

The reason was that the head of that division got changed. A new administrator came in who was not sure what the president wanted so he did nothing. Time went on and the international community said, “Wait a minute, you promised that you were going to do that and you didn’t do that.”

So the structure is such that it is very difficult. China can’t react as fast as it should. That will change, but it is going to take time.

R&I: That’s interesting, because during the financial crisis in 2008 there was talk that China, given their more centralized authority, could react more quickly, not less quickly.

Hank Greenberg: It turns out that it is harder to change, because they have one leader. My guess is that we’ll work it out sooner or later. Trump and Xi have to meet. That will result in some agreement that will get to them and they will have to finish the rest of the negotiations. I believe that will happen.

R&I: Obviously, you have a very unique perspective and experience in China. For American companies coming to China, what are some of the current challenges?

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Hank Greenberg: Well, they very much want to do business in China. That’s due to the sheer size of the country, at 1.4 billion people. It’s a very big market and not just for insurance companies. It’s a whole range of companies that would like to have access to China as easily as Chinese companies have access to the United States. As I said previously, that has to be resolved.

It’s not going to be easy, because China has a history of not being treated well by other countries. The U.S. has been pretty good in that way. We haven’t taken advantage of China.

R&I: Your op-ed was very enlightening on that topic.

Hank Greenberg: President Xi wants to rebuild the “middle kingdom,” to what China was, a great country. Part of that was his takeover of the South China Sea rock islands during the Obama Administration; we did nothing. It’s a little late now to try and do something. They promised they would never militarize those islands. Then they did. That’s a real problem in Southern Asia. The other countries in that region are not happy about that.

R&I: One thing that has differentiated your company is that it is not a public company, and it is not a mutual company. We think you’re the only large insurance company with that structure at that scale. What advantages does that give you?

Hank Greenberg: Two things. First of all, we’re more than an insurance company. We have the traditional investment unit with the insurance company. Then we have a separate investment unit that we started, which is very successful. So we have a source of income that is diverse. We don’t have to underwrite business that is going to lose a lot of money. Not knowingly anyway.

R&I: And that’s because you are a private company?

Hank Greenberg: Yes. We attract a different type of person in a private company.

R&I: Do you think that enables you to react more quickly?

Hank Greenberg: Absolutely. When we left AIG there were three of us. Myself, Howie Smith and Ed Matthews. Howie used to run the internal financials and Ed Matthews was the investment guy coming out of Morgan Stanley when I was putting AIG together. We started with three people and now we have 3,500 and growing.

“I think technology can play a role in reducing operating expenses. In the last 70 years, you have seen the expense ratio of the industry rise, and I’m not sure the industry can afford a 35 percent expense ratio. But while technology can help, some additional fundamental changes will also be required.” — Maurice “Hank” Greenberg, chairman and CEO, C.V. Starr & Co. Inc.

R&I:  You being forced to leave AIG in 2005 really was an injustice, by the way. AIG wouldn’t have been in the position it was in 2008 if you had still been there.

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Hank Greenberg: Absolutely not. We had all the right things in place. We met with the financial services division once a day every day to make sure they stuck to what they were supposed to do. Even Hank Paulson, the Secretary of Treasury, sat on the stand during my trial and said that if I’d been at the company, it would not have imploded the way it did.

R&I: And that fateful decision the AIG board made really affected the course of the country.

Hank Greenberg: So many people lost all of their net worth. The new management was taking on billions of dollars’ worth of risk with no collateral. They had decimated the internal risk management controls. And the government takeover of the company when the financial crisis blew up was grossly unfair.

From the time it went public, AIG’s value had increased from $300 million to $180 billion. Thanks to Eliot Spitzer, it’s now worth a fraction of that. His was a gross misuse of the Martin Act. It gives the Attorney General the power to investigate without probable cause and bring fraud charges without having to prove intent. Only in New York does the law grant the AG that much power.

R&I: It’s especially frustrating when you consider the quality of his own character, and the scandal he was involved in.

In early 2008, Spitzer was caught on a federal wiretap arranging a meeting with a prostitute at a Washington Hotel and resigned shortly thereafter.

Hank Greenberg: Yes. And it’s been successive. Look at Eric Schneiderman. He resigned earlier this year when it came out that he had abused several women. And this was after he came out so strongly against other men accused of the same thing. To me it demonstrates hypocrisy and abuse of power.

Schneiderman followed in Spitzer’s footsteps in leveraging the Martin Act against numerous corporations to generate multi-billion dollar settlements.

R&I: Starr, however, continues to thrive. You said you’re at 3,500 people and still growing. As you continue to expand, how do you deal with the challenge of attracting talent?

Hank Greenberg: We did something last week.

On September 16th, St. John’s University announced the largest gift in its 148-year history. The Starr Foundation donated $15 million to the school, establishing the Maurice R. Greenberg Leadership Initiative at St. John’s School of Risk Management, Insurance and Actuarial Science.

Hank Greenberg: We have recruited from St. John’s for many, many years. These are young people who want to be in the insurance industry. They don’t get into it by accident. They study to become proficient in this and we have recruited some very qualified individuals from that school. But we also recruit from many other universities. On the investment side, outside of the insurance industry, we also recruit from Wall Street.

R&I: We’re very interested in how you and other leaders in this industry view technology and how they’re going to use it.

Hank Greenberg: I think technology can play a role in reducing operating expenses. In the last 70 years, you have seen the expense ratio of the industry rise, and I’m not sure the industry can afford a 35 percent expense ratio. But while technology can help, some additional fundamental changes will also be required.

R&I: So as the pre-eminent leader of the insurance industry, what do you see in terms of where insurance is now an where it’s going?

Hank Greenberg: The country and the world will always need insurance. That doesn’t mean that what we have today is what we’re going to have 25 years from now.

How quickly the change comes and how far it will go will depend on individual companies and individual countries. Some will be more brave than others. But change will take place, there is no doubt about it.

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More will go on in space, there is no question about that. We’re involved in it right now as an insurance company, and it will get broader.

One of the things you have to worry about is it’s now a nuclear world. It’s a more dangerous world. And again, we have to find some way to deal with that.

So, change is inevitable. You need people who can deal with change.

R&I:  Is there anything else, Mr. Greenberg, you want to comment on?

Hank Greenberg: I think I’ve covered it. &

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