2018 Vermont Report

Vermont: A Domicile For Captive Innovation

Cyber, trucking and terror risk in property are finding alternative risk homes.
By: | April 9, 2018 • 6 min read

As America’s largest on-shore domicile for captive insurance, and one of the first, Vermont is home to some of the oldest and largest captive insurance companies, as well as some of the country’s most knowledgeable and experienced regulators.


It is a combination that provides a hospitable environment for captives looking to innovate in a rapidly changing world.

“Vermont’s been doing this for 30 years, so the regulators have the experience,” said Brady Young, president and CEO, Strategic Risk Solutions.

“They can sniff out a deal or some structure that doesn’t make sense, and if they don’t like it, they’ll let you know. But if it makes sense, generally they’re pretty supportive of letting people do it.”

That regulatory culture is evident in Vermont’s relatively open mind toward captive innovations in response to a number of emerging risks as well as emerging opportunities — like the growing trend of companies seeking to transform their captives from a cost center to a profit center.

“They’ve built up a surplus in a captive over the years, because very often companies will price their premiums at market rate,” said Dave Provost, Vermont’s Deputy Commissioner of Captive Insurance.

“They’re in a captive because they think they’re not getting a good deal in the market and so they do build up profits over the years.” Once a captive has built up that surplus, Provost said, the owner has a dilemma: “What do we do with it?”

Increasingly, the answer is to expand the captive’s offerings to include insurance products for clients, members, suppliers, etc., which are outside the company but related to it.

Avenues of Expansion

“States like Vermont have the flexibility to say, ‘Look if it’s controlled and related to your business — and the keywords are controlled and related — we’re comfortable that the risk that you’re putting in your captive is in a good business and solid business.’ They are supportive of allowing companies do it,” said Young.

Bill Mourelatos, managing director, Captive & Insurance Management, Aon Global Risk Consulting

Such expansions often take the form of extended warranties and service contracts.

“When it comes to vendors and suppliers, there is an opportunity for an owner of a single-parent captive to offer some insurance products to unrelated parties that they work closely with,” said Provost.

“We call it controlled unaffiliated business. You may not have legal ownership control, but you’ve got some effective control. If you’re either their largest customer or their largest supplier, you can exert some influence on them, and if you can do that, then you might be able to share risk with them in your captive.”

Other innovations arise in response to emerging risks from technology or sociopolitical developments.

“Captives have been insuring terrorism risk since 9/11,” said Bill Mourelatos, managing director, Captive & Insurance Management, Aon Global Risk Consulting.

“One advantage of putting some of the risk into a captive is that they can participate in the federal backstop or the TRIA Program. But I think another innovation, at least with terrorism, is that they’re including nuclear, biological, chemical and radioactive cover, which typically is excluded from commercial coverage,” he said.

“Since the federal government started backstopping terrorism insurance, captives have been utilized by property owners and other businesses, both large and small, that have a lot of risk in that area,” said Richard Smith, president, VCIA.

This is particularly helpful for utilities or high-profile real estate that might otherwise have trouble finding coverage.

“A major office building near Broadway sold for $800 million to a group of investors,” said Young, citing one example.

“Since the federal government started backstopping terrorism insurance, captives have been utilized by property owners and other businesses, both large and small, that have a lot of risk in that area.” — Richard Smith, president, VCIA

“They couldn’t find $800 million in terrorist protection. It wasn’t even a question of price, they just couldn’t find it, because everybody that writes property insurance for office buildings was already loaded up. We worked with them to use their captive to solve that problem.”


Captives are often formed in response to risks that insureds feel aren’t accurately understood or priced by the marketplace.

“Everyone obviously is talking about cyber in every facet of business these days,” said Mourelatos.

“I think the captives will have a part in providing coverage in cyber, either through a gateway to the reinsurance markets or by retaining certain levels of risk.”

“Putting cyber coverage in your captive is something that the Vermont regulators are very open to and adept at approving,” said Smith.

“There are certainly a lot of products in the traditional insurance world that people are accessing, but many people prefer to put cyber within their captive program because of the flexibility and better understanding of their own risk profiles.”

New technologies like self-driving cars bring other challenges and, with them, captive innovations.

“The things that make it difficult for an insurance company to operate will all be present with driving cars: no pricing model, no certainty of where things attach, no history of court cases.

If it’s a completely self-driving car, who’s responsible? If it’s a partially self-driving car, what responsibility does the driver, if there is somebody identified as the driver, have? Even identifying ‘who’s the driver?’ If the car came to pick you up, who owns the car? So there’ll be a lot of questions and that will create some opportunity for captives,” said Provost.

Mourelatos agreed: “With the self-driving vehicles, captives will be at the forefront, because like anything, when there is a risk that tends to be somewhat unknown or uninsurable, it tends to go self-insurance first before the commercial markets get in,” he said.

“They understand the algorithms and the risks better than the commercial markets.”

Emerging Opportunities

Technologies like blockchain and cryptocurrencies are also sparking innovations among Vermont’s captives.

According to Smith, captive owners as well as traditional insurers are exploring the use of blockchain to protect important policies and documents that flow between organizations and clients.

Richard Smith, president, VCIA

“Vermont has actually been leading in terms of creating the structure for institutions to use blockchain for records management,” said Smith.

“Is there a place for captives as a tool to help mitigate the risk within a blockchain program? That is an area that we’re looking at very closely.”

Similarly, while the industry explores the use of cryptocurrencies for premium or claims payments, there may also be a role for captives in insuring them.

“We have had some discussions with cryptocurrency markets about ways that captive insurance might help indemnify some of their risks, in the event of some sort of market failure or loss,” said Smith.

Smith has discussed the area with Vermont’s lead regulators.

“They are open. They’re interested,” he said. “They’re going to be careful … to see where this goes, but they definitely are willing to have discussions about it.”

Other developments that may present a niche for captive innovations include the marijuana industry and its unique legal status.

“These owners are depositing their cash typically in a bank account, but most federally chartered banks will not take their money, so state-chartered banks are stepping up, but they’re not getting the FDIC Insurance and that’s where captives are being formed to provide that insurance,” said Mourelatos.


“And that’s just one aspect. So I think there’s going to be a lot of captive play in the marijuana industry just because commercial insurers don’t have necessarily an appetite and because of the contradiction in the federal law.”

More mature sectors also turn to captives in response to issues with supply or pricing in the marketplace.

“Trucking and transportation-related risk is a challenging area right now,” said Young.

“Prices are going up, supply is going down, and clients are being forced to take more of the risk themselves.”

He cites a similar dynamic in liability and workers’ compensation coverage for nursing homes. &

Jon McGoran is a novelist and magazine editor based outside of Philadelphia. He can be reached at [email protected]

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Meet Eric Dobkin, director, insurance and risk management, for Merck & Co. Inc.
By: | September 28, 2018 • 5 min read

R&I: What was your first job?
My first job out of undergrad was as an actuarial trainee at Chubb.I was a math major in school, and I think the options for a math major coming out are either a teacher or an actuary, right? Anyway, I was really happy when the opportunity at Chubb presented itself. Fantastic company. I learned a lot there.

R&I: How did you come to work in risk management?
After I went back to get my MBA, I decided I wanted to work in corporate finance. When I was interviewing, one of the opportunities was with Merck. I really liked their mission, and things worked out. Given my background, they thought a good starting job would be in Merck’s risk management group. I started there, rotated through other areas within Merck finance but ultimately came back to the Insurance & Risk Management group. I guess I’m just one of those people who enjoy this type of work.


R&I: What is risk management doing right?
I think the community is doing a good job of promoting education, sharing ideas and advancing knowledge. Opportunities like this help make us all better business partners. We can take these ideas and translate them into actionable solutions to help our companies.

R&I: What could the risk management community be doing a better job of?
I think we have made good advancements in articulating the value proposition of investing in risk management, but much more can be done. Sometimes there is such a focus on delivering immediate value, such as cost savings, that risk management does not get appropriate attention (until something happens). We need to develop better tools that can reinforce that risk management is value-creating and good for operational efficiency, customers and shareholders.

R&I: What’s been the biggest change in the risk management and insurance industry since you’ve been in it?
I’d actually say there hasn’t been as much change as I would have hoped. I think the industry speaks about innovation more often than it does it. To be fair, at Merck we do have key partners that are innovators, but some in the industry are less enthusiastic to consider new approaches. I think there is a real need to find new and relevant solutions for large, complex risks.

R&I: What emerging commercial risk most concerns you?
Cyber risk. While it’s not emerging anymore, it’s evolving, dynamic and deserves the attention it gets. Merck was an early adopter of risk transfer solutions for cyber risk, and we continue to see insurance as an important component of the overall cyber risk management framework. From my perspective, this risk, more than any other, demands continuous forward-thinking to ensure we evolve solutions.

R&I: What’s the biggest challenge you’ve faced in your career?
Sticking with the cyber theme, I’d say navigating through a cyber incident is right up there. In June 2017, Merck experienced a network cyber attack that led to a disruption of its worldwide operations, including manufacturing, research and sales. It was a very challenging environment. And managing the insurance claim that resulted has been extremely complex. But at the same time, I have learned a tremendous amount in terms of how to think about the risk, enterprise resiliency and how to manage through a cyber incident.

R&I: What advice might you give to students or other aspiring risk managers?
Have strong intellectual curiosity. Always be willing to listen and learn. Ask “why?” We deal with a lot of ambiguity in our business, and the more you seek to understand, the better you will be able to apply those learnings toward developing solutions that meet the evolving risk landscape and needs of the business.


R&I: What role does technology play in your company’s approach to risk management?
We’re continuing to look for ways to apply technology. For example, being able to extract and leverage data that resides in our systems to evaluate risk, drive efficiencies and make things like property-value reporting easier. We’re also looking to utilize data visualization tools to help gain insights into our risks.

R&I: What are your goals for the next five to 10 years of your career?
I think, at this time, I would like to continue to learn and grow in the type of work I do and broaden my scope of responsibilities. There are many opportunities to deliver value. I want to continue to focus on becoming a stronger business partner and help enable growth.

R&I: What is your favorite book or movie?
I’d say right now Star Wars is top on my list. It has been magical re-watching and re-living the series I watched as a kid through the eyes of my children.

R&I: What is the riskiest activity you ever engaged in? When I was about 15, I went to a New York Rangers versus Philadelphia Flyers game at the Philadelphia Spectrum. I wore my Rangers jersey. I would not do that again.

Eric Dobkin, director, insurance & risk management, Merck & Co. Inc

R&I: What is it about this work you find most fulfilling or rewarding?
I am passionate about Merck’s mission of saving and improving lives. “Inventing for Life” is Merck’s tagline. It’s funny, but most people don’t associate “inventing” with medicine. But Merck has been inventing medicines and vaccines for many of the world’s most challenging diseases for a long time. It’s amazing to think the products we make can help people fight terrible diseases like cancer. Whatever little bit I can do to help advance that mission is very fulfilling and rewarding.

R&I: What do your friends and family think you do?
Ha! My kids think I make medicine. I guess they think that because I work for Merck. I suppose if even in a small way I can contribute to Merck’s mission of saving and improving lives, I am good with that. &

Katie Dwyer is an associate editor at Risk & Insurance®. She can be reached at [email protected]