Insurance Executive

Ten Questions for Dan Olmsted

A private client executive with Ironshore looks for strong building codes and building code enforcement when underwriting high net worth homes.
By: | February 10, 2017 • 7 min read

Ironshore recently achieved approvals to provide private client business in the key New York market. Risk & Insurance® talked to Dan Olmsted, New York-based senior vice president for the private client group about this development and his approach to the segment.

R&I: How long has Ironshore been writing the private client business, Dan?

Olmsted: Ironshore has been in the high net worth sector of the personal lines market since I joined in 2010. We wanted to approach the sector from a specialty angle first and then expand to the admitted capability.

R&I: We note that Ironshore is writing private client insurance on an admitted basis in five states — most recently New York — with plans to expand the business.  Do you have a goal for how soon the coverage will be more broadly available?

Olmsted:  In 2010, we started to offer coverage geared toward homes valued at a million dollars and higher on a specialty basis. Now we are underwriting in five states with the same million dollar valued homes and higher threshold on an admitted basis. What I am focused on is gaining traction in these East Coast states as well as contiguous territories geographically that make sense.

We recently received approval in New York, which was important because it filled out our presence in the tristate area, including Connecticut, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. That’s notable because most brokers and producers write on a geographic territory or regional basis. We are also looking at East Coast centers of business and affluence. We have or will have the capabilities to write around New York, Atlanta, Washington. DC., Boston and Philadelphia.

R&I: Recent reports outline the threat to high-end residential properties on the coasts due to rising seas and climate change. How is Ironshore working with clients to mitigate and transfer the risk of this threat?

Olmsted: I look at two aspects of coastal risk. One is the macro, which I think you are referring to. Then there is the micro, an actual home, whether I’m going to write it and what the terms and conditions are going to be.

We model every home before we write it. We consider wind and storm surge and flooding for the property and tailor the product accordingly. We consider the individual characteristics of the home over a 12 month period. We also assess what mitigation measures might be in place that might address any issues and also how it models.

Dan Olmsted,senior vice president for the private client group, Ironshore

On a macro level, I do tend to be more aggressive in writing where there are strong building codes and strong enforcement of those codes. One organization that I reference is the Insurance Institute for Business & Home Safety. They rank on a regular basis each state for coastal hurricane peril.

They rank the quality of the building codes for the state as well as the quality of the enforcement of the building codes. Florida does very well. They have a 95 percent rating on a scale of zero to 100. Their ranking is so high because they have strong building codes and they enforce them.  I can look at a South Florida location and if I know the year it is built, we can capture a good amount of information.

R&I: That’s interesting. Are there some states in the Northeast, for example, that are stronger than others?

Olmsted: Yes, Virginia and New Jersey have pretty good to very good building codes and enforcement. It’s an evolving environment. As we learn more, we can determine and refine our approach as states amend and improve those codes.  Equally important is making sure states are enforcing codes and that they are not just written on a sheet of paper.

We model every home before we write it. We consider wind and storm surge and flooding for the property and tailor the product accordingly. We consider the individual characteristics of the home over a 12 month period. We also assess what mitigation measures might be in place that might address any issues and also how it models.

R&I: In the case of individual home owners, what are you asking for in terms of mitigation or protection?

Olmsted: In the case of flood, there’s the elevation issue and there may not be anything we can do about that. In terms of the wind exposure, you are looking for hurricane glass, the type of roof, and the pitch and the type of attachment of the roof to the dwelling to determine whether all openings are protected.

R&I: Is that something homeowners are paying more and more attention to?

Olmsted: Yes. Modeling of a residence has become more and more important. The roof, the attachments and the type of hurricane glass can all make a difference in how a home will model. We definitely see a correlation between the steps in mitigation and what ultimately might be the loss in an event.

R&I: It seems to us that high net worth clients highly value umbrella coverage. Having too many policies with too many renewal dates is a headache. How do you view the appetite among high net worth clients for this type of coverage?

Olmsted: There are several different modules that the high end customer needs. A lot of it is built around the property, the home, jewelry, fine art, etc. And then there is the general liability exposure, particularly with a high net worth individual because they can often become a target, or be perceived as a target for a liability loss. People often don’t realize how much they have at risk in terms of liability.

High net worth homeowners do a lot of things to protect their homes and financial investments. For example, a bad accident on a snowy day could wipe out a lot of their wealth if liability is at stake. I say to people, your spouse calls you and says I hit something. The next question is ‘hit what?’ a mailbox or god forbid someone, then there is potential for a much higher exposure.

It makes sense for homeowners to buy as much umbrella protection as they can. People can lose not only what they have today but what they might earn in the future. I always encourage my insureds to buy as much as they feel they can afford.

R&I: What do you see as the key pain points for high net worth clients that a savvy underwriting company that seeks market share would be wise to address?

Olmsted: The general pain point in the high net worth space compared to the non-high net worth space is that clients expect outstanding claims service.  We emphasize claims servicing for taking care of our clients.

In terms of the underwriting process, we provide homeowners more flexibility. There are a lot of rules of thumb that have developed over time in our industry. Just take one for example. If you secure coverage for a million-dollar home, companies will offer a quote which automatically includes 10 percent of that amount will cover other property structures. Seventy percent of that amount would be for contents and so on.

Those are all nice averages but people have different needs. Someone might be in a $5 million home but might not have $3.5 million in contents, particularly if they schedule the contents, collectibles and other belongings.

High net worth homeowners do a lot of things to protect their homes and financial investments. For example, a bad accident on a snowy day could wipe out a lot of their wealth if liability is at stake. I say to people, your spouse calls you and says I hit something. The next question is ‘hit what?’ a mailbox or god forbid someone, then there is potential for a much higher exposure.

We offer insureds the proper coverage amount with the flexibility to buy what they need for the other coverages. A lot of times people will say, well I don’t have what you are assuming I have for contents. Or I have multiple homes and I don’t need loss of use coverage. So, Ironshore offers product flexibility for each insured.

Another area that concerns me is the whole inspection process, which has developed over the last 30 years. The problem is that people are busy. Both couples might work and don’t have time to schedule a walk through for their house. Some homeowners have privacy concerns. To do a good job for the client, we have to walk through the house and conduct a proper appraisal. There are circumstances where there is virtual information online or the residence was inspected two or three years ago. We can then access that information.

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If possible, we try to conduct a virtual inspection. The goal is to get the right value for the client upfront. There is nothing worse than a homeowner getting a quote before an inspector walks through their home.  Two weeks later, they get an increase in their home valuation and a resultant increase in the premium.

R&I: Can you share with us, Dan, your history in the private client area? How did you first come to work in this space?

Olmsted: Initially, I worked at ISO in  product development. I later joined Atlantic Mutual as they were developing their high end product, called the Atlantic Master Plan, which was probably the first true package policy for high end clients. I worked at Atlantic Mutual for 25 years, serving as president and eventually CEO.  And then we sold the business in 2008 to ACE. I joined ACE at that time and then moved to Ironshore in 2010.

R&I: What about work with the private client business do you find most interesting and challenging professionally, Dan?

Olmsted: The thing I like best is that while homeowners try to control the insurance costs, the service component is so important in the product underwriting and the claims handling within the high net worth sector. As an underwriter, you can be creative. You can develop new coverage ideas or new ways to deliver claims servicing efficiencies.

Dan Reynolds is editor-in-chief of Risk & Insurance. He can be reached at [email protected]

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Soft targets, such as sports stadiums, must increase measures to protect lives and their business.
By: | January 10, 2018 • 8 min read

Acts of violence and terror can break out in even the unlikeliest of places.

Look at the 2013 Boston Marathon, where two bombs went off, killing three and injuring dozens of others in a terrorist attack. Or consider the Orlando Pulse nightclub, where 49 people were killed and 58 wounded. Most recently in Las Vegas, a gunman killed 58 and injured hundreds of others.

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The world is not inherently evil, but these evil acts still find a way into places like churches, schools, concerts and stadiums.

“We didn’t see these kinds of attacks 20 years ago,” said Glenn Chavious, managing director, global sports & recreation practice leader, Industria Risk & Insurance Services.

As a society, we have advanced through technology, he said. Technology’s platform has enabled the message of terror to spread further faster.

“But it’s not just with technology. Our cultures, our personal grievances, have brought people out of their comfort zones.”

Chavious said that people still had these grievances 20 years ago but were less likely to act out. Tech has linked people around the globe to other like-minded individuals, allowing for others to join in on messages of terror.

“The progression of terrorist acts over the last 10 years has very much been central to the emergence of ‘lone wolf’ actors. As was the case in both Manchester and Las Vegas, the ‘lone wolf’ dynamic presents an altogether unique set of challenges for law enforcement and event service professionals,” said John

Glenn Chavious, managing director, global sports & recreation practice leader, Industria Risk & Insurance Services

Tomlinson, senior vice president, head of entertainment, Lockton.

As more violent outbreaks take place in public spaces, risk managers learn from and better understand what attackers want. Each new event enables risk managers to see what works and what can be improved upon to better protect people and places.

But the fact remains that the nature and pattern of attacks are changing.

“Many of these actions are devised in complete obscurity and on impulse, and are carried out by individuals with little to no prior visibility, in terms of behavioral patterns or threat recognition, thus making it virtually impossible to maintain any elements of anticipation by security officials,” said Tomlinson.

With vehicles driving into crowds, active shooters and the random nature of attacks, it’s hard to gauge what might come next, said Warren Harper, global sports & events practice leader, Marsh.

Public spaces like sporting arenas are particularly vulnerable because they are considered ‘soft targets.’ They are areas where people gather in large numbers for recreation. They are welcoming to their patrons and visitors, much like a hospital, and the crowds that attend come in droves.

NFL football stadiums, for example, can hold anywhere from 25,000 to 93,000 people at maximum capacity — and that number doesn’t include workers, players or other behind-the-scenes personnel.

“Attacks are a big risk management issue,” said Chavious. “Insurance is the last resort we want to rely upon. We’d rather be preventing it to avoid such events.”

Preparing for Danger

The second half of 2017 proved a trying few months for the insurance industry, facing hurricanes, earthquakes, wildfires and — unfortunately — multiple mass shootings.

The industry was estimated to take a more than $1 billion hit from the Las Vegas massacre in October 2017. A few years back, the Boston Marathon bombings cost businesses around $333 million each day the city was shut down following the attack. Officials were on a manhunt for the suspects in question, and Boston was on lockdown.

“Many of these actions are devised in complete obscurity and on impulse, and are carried out by individuals with little to no prior visibility.” — John Tomlinson, senior vice president, head of entertainment, Lockton

“Fortunately, we have not had a complete stadium go down,” said Harper. But a mass casualty event at a stadium can lead to the death or injury of athletes, spectators and guests; psychological trauma; potential workers’ comp claims from injured employees; lawsuits; significant reputational damage; property damage and prolonged business interruption losses.

The physical damage, said Harper, might be something risk managers can gauge beforehand, but loss of life is immeasurable.

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The best practice then, said Chavious, is awareness and education.

“A lot of preparedness comes from education. [Stadiums] need a risk management plan.”

First and foremost, Chavious said, stadiums need to perform a security risk assessment. Find out where vulnerable spots are, decide where education can be improved upon and develop other safety measures over time.

Areas outside the stadium are soft targets, said Harper. The parking lot, the ticketing and access areas and even the metro transit areas where guests mingle before and after a game are targeted more often than inside.

Last year, for example, a stadium in Manchester was the target of a bomb, which detonated outside the venue as concert-goers left. In 2015, the Stade de France in Paris was the target of suicide bombers and active shooters, who struck the outside of the stadium while a soccer match was held inside.

Security, therefore, needs to be ready to react both inside and outside the vicinity. Reviewing past events and seeing what works has helped risk mangers improve safety strategies.

“A lot of places are getting into table-top exercises” to make sure their people are really trained, added Harper.

In these exercises, employees from various departments come together to brainstorm and work through a hypothetical terrorist situation.

A facilitator will propose the scenario — an active shooter has been spotted right before the game begins, someone has called in a bomb threat, a driver has fled on foot after driving into a crowd — and the stadium’s staff is asked how they should respond.

“People tend to act on assumptions, which may be wrong, but this is a great setting for them to brainstorm and learn,” said Harper.

Technology and Safety

In addition to education, stadiums are ahead of the game, implementing high-tech security cameras and closed-circuit TV monitoring, requiring game-day audiences to use clear/see-through bags when entering the arena, upping employee training on safety protocols and utilizing vapor wake dogs.

Drones are also adding a protective layer.

John Tomlinson, senior vice president, head of entertainment, Lockton

“Drones are helpful in surveying an area and can alert security to any potential threat,” said Chavious.

“Many stadiums have an area between a city’s metro and the stadium itself. If there’s a disturbance there, and you don’t have a camera in that area, you could use the drone instead of moving physical assets.”

Chavious added that “the overhead view will pick up potential crowd concentration, see if there are too many people in one crowd, or drones can fly overhead and be used to assess situations like a vehicle that’s in a place it shouldn’t be.”

But like with all new technology, drones too have their downsides. There’s the expense of owning, maintaining and operating the drone. Weather conditions can affect how and when a drone is used, so it isn’t a reliable source. And what if that drone gets hacked?

“The evolution of venue security protocols most certainly includes the increased usage of unmanned aerial systems (UAS), including drones, as the scope and territorial vastness provided by UAS, from a monitoring perspective, is much more expansive than ground-based apparatus,” said Tomlinson.

“That said,” he continued, “there have been many documented instances in which the intrusion of unauthorized drones at live events have posed major security concerns and have actually heightened the risk of injury to participants and attendees.”

Still, many experts, including Tomlinson, see drones playing a significant role in safety at stadiums moving forward.

“I believe the utilization of drones will continue to be on the forefront of risk mitigation innovation in the live event space, albeit with some very tight operating controls,” he said.

The SAFETY Act

In response to the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, U.S. Homeland Security enacted the Support Anti-Terrorism by Fostering Effective

Warren Harper, global sports & events practice leader, Marsh

Technologies Act (SAFETY Act).

The primary purpose of the SAFETY Act was to encourage potential manufacturers or sellers of anti-terrorism technologies to continue to develop and commercialize these technologies (like video monitoring or drones).

There was a worry that the threat of liability in such an event would deter and prevent sellers from pursing these technologies, which are aimed at saving lives. Instead, the SAFETY Act provides incentive by adding a system of risk and litigation management.

“[The SAFETY Act] is geared toward claims arising out of acts of terrorism,” said Harper.

Bottom line: It’s added financial protection. Businesses both large and small can apply for the SAFETY designation — in fact, many NFL teams push for the designation. So far, four have reached SAFETY certification: Lambeau Field, MetLife Stadium, University of Phoenix Stadium and Gillette Stadium.

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To become certified, reviewers with the SAFETY Act assess stadiums for their compliance with the most up-to-date terrorism products. They look at their built-in emergency response plans, cyber security measures, hiring and training of employees, among other criteria.

The process can take over a year, but once certified, stadiums benefit because liability for an event is lessened. One thing to remember, however, is that the added SAFETY Act protection only holds weight when a catastrophic event is classified as an act of terrorism.

“Generally speaking, I think the SAFETY Act has been instrumental in paving the way for an accelerated development of anti-terrorism products and services,” said Tomlinson.

“The benefit of gaining elements of impunity from third-party liability related matters has served as a catalyst for developers to continue to push the envelope, so to speak, in terms of ideas and innovation.”

So while attackers are changing their methods and trying to stay ahead of safety protocols at stadiums, the SAFETY Act, as well as risk managers and stadium owners, keep stadiums investing in newer, more secure safety measures. &

Autumn Heisler is a staff writer at Risk & Insurance. She can be reached at [email protected]