R&I Profile

A Man of Principle

Those who know the business say the success of Arch is due to the drive, intellect and discipline of Dinos Iordanou.
By: | December 10, 2014 • 10 min read

Constantine “Dinos” Iordanou could be forgiven if he wasn’t in the best of moods when we talked to him. It was the day after his beloved Arsenal Soccer Club lost 2-1 to Swansea City.

Even more painful was the loss by the Virginia Cavaliers women’s soccer team to Florida State 1-0 in the ACC Championships that same day. Iordanou’s daughter Tina is on that team.

Advertisement




“It was not a very good weekend for me,” said the chairman and CEO of the Arch Capital Group, a former soccer player who friends describe as an intense competitor in his own right.

All fans know that they cannot control the outcome of sporting events. But in the areas of his life that he does control, Dinos Iordanou simply does not lose.

The Arch Capital Group is a rarity among those Bermuda-based companies formed in 2001 — in the hardened market after the terror attacks — in that it wrote primary and reinsurance from the beginning. It clearly outperforms its classmates and is one of the darlings of Wall Street investors in this space.

Those who know the business and know Iordanou say the success of Arch is due to his drive, intellect and discipline.

The Police Academy

Iordanou, in turn, is quick to point to the roots of that ambition and self-control. They begin on the island of Cyprus, where Iordanou was the eldest of six children.

Iordanou’s father Philippos was a police officer. The family struggled to make ends meet.

“You know how far a policeman’s salary can go,” Iordanou said.

The only great thing for me, I was the first born, the hand-me-downs went to my brothers.” — Dinos Iordanou

“We always had food to eat but we didn’t always have the best clothes. The only great thing for me, I was the first born, the hand-me-downs went to my brothers,” Iordanou said with a chuckle.

In the house of Philippos Iordanou, you were expected to work hard and make something of yourself. All the kids had jobs after school. The money they earned was theirs for pocket money but sometimes it was needed to help the family cover its grocery bills.

As Dinos matured, his father made it clear to him that it was in the United States that he was expected to make his fortune.

“My father was very disciplined, he ran the house like it was the police academy,” Iordanou said.

After his mandatory military service, Iordanou boarded the SS Queen Anna Maria to the United States — the family couldn’t afford a plane ticket — and journeyed by himself for 17 days.

If Iordanou was expecting helicopter parent behavior from his father, he wasn’t going to get it.

“When I got here, I called him and his first words were, ‘Did you get a job yet?’ and his second were ‘Did you register for school?’ He didn’t ask me if I had a good time or if I was OK,” Iordanou recalled.

Iordanou was clear on his marching orders. With an uncle in Astoria, Queens, providing the roof over his head, Iordanou’s first job was pumping gas at a Shell station. He also washed dishes in a nursing home, drove a cab and worked as a cook.

“You’ve got to earn your way through school and get on,” Iordanou said.

With his father’s voice in his head, Iordanou moved on and stayed on track. He graduated from New York University with a degree in aerospace engineering.

Advertisement




His first job out of school was with Pratt & Whitney, assessing the condition of wheels on New York City Transit subway cars. But as an immigrant, Iordanou soon realized that he would never get the clearances to do more involved public sector work.

“The career would have been over before it started,” he said.

A college counselor suggested that Iordanou turn to Wall Street and consider a career in finance or insurance. Iordanou’s next job was with AIG.

The School of Greenberg

At AIG, Iordanou, who started out assessing engineering risks for underwriters, found himself rubbing shoulders with an equally young, talented and ambitious group. Many of them, like him, would go on to important leadership positions in the industry.

“[AIG] would give you a lot of exposure, understanding all the facets of the business as long as you were willing and able to put in the time.” — Dinos Iordanou

Colleagues like Kevin Kelley, the future head of Lexington and later Ironshore; Brian Duperreault, the builder of ACE Ltd. and now CEO of the Hamilton Insurance Group; Evan Greenberg, ACE’s current CEO, president and chairman; and Joe Taranto, the retired chairman of Everest Re; were Iordanou’s classmates in what we will call the School of Greenberg — the company run by former AIG Chairman and CEO Hank Greenberg.

Iordanou put in 80 hours per week as part of AIG’s “fast track” program, which identified promising future executives and gave them a lot of exposure. In addition to their assigned jobs, they were rotated through different areas of the company, to learn as much about the business as possible.

Iordanou wasn’t working 80 hours per week because it was specifically asked of him. The young, hungry immigrant did it because he wanted to.

“They would give you a lot of exposure, understanding all the facets of the business as long as you were willing and able to put in the time,” Iordanou recalled.

“I was very hungry to learn and very hungry to get ahead. So to me it was a blessing,” he said.

Kevin Kelley, Chairman and CEO, Ironshore

Kevin Kelley, CEO, Ironshore

Ironshore’s Kevin Kelley recalls Dinos Iordanou as his kind of co-worker, someone who worked hard and was useful to his colleagues, but didn’t wear his ambitions on his sleeve.

“Dinos was a very, very bright guy, a very driven guy,” Kelley said.

“I think his colleagues respected him. He had the right perspective on how one should be ambitious,” Kelley said.

“He was charismatic, self-assured and personable and while he was certainly aggressive, with a desire to succeed, it was clear he had great leadership skills,” recalls Brian Duperreault, an AIG alumnus and the CEO of The Hamilton Insurance Group.

“He’s a born leader,” Duperreault said.

Advertisement




Iordanou’s big break came after the passage of the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act in 1976, which called for closer governance of hazardous waste disposal. Iordanou in 1979 was given the responsibility of creating an environmental liability group at AIG.

“It was new and it had quite a bit of risk in it,” Iordanou said. It was also closely watched by Hank Greenberg, by reputation a very detail-oriented business manager.

“After that, I started getting promoted with more responsibilities and more divisions,” he said.

“[Iordanou] was charismatic, self-assured and personable and while he was certainly aggressive, with a desire to succeed, it was clear he had great leadership skills.” — Brian Duperreault, CEO, The Hamilton Insurance Group.

When Iordanou was recruited away from AIG to Berkshire Hathaway in 1987, he was 37 years old and in charge of all casualty at AIG subsidiary American Home, overseeing a division with $1.7 billion in revenue.

That was an experience reflected by his equally ambitious teammates. At the age of 36, Kevin Kelley was running Lexington.

“All I know is that every day they seemed to be throwing more at you,” Kelley recalled of those days.

“I guess Greenberg saw how you responded and if you liked it he just gave you more.”

First Hank Greenberg, then Warren Buffett

At Berkshire Hathaway, Iordanou was eventually placed in charge of all casualty. The graduate of the School of Greenberg also had a new mentor — Warren Buffett.

“He provided lessons in understanding business every single day.” — Dinos Iordanou, on Warren Buffett, Berkshire Hathaway chairman, known worldwide as the “Sage of Omaha.”

“He provided lessons in understanding business every single day,” Iordanou said of the Berkshire Hathaway chairman, known worldwide as the “Sage of Omaha.”

“He is beyond brilliant. He has a style almost like a college professor. Every time he speaks, you are learning something from him,” Iordanou said.

The ambitious and now in-demand Iordanou had a handshake agreement with Buffett to stay for five years. He honored that agreement, then left to take on a variety of roles at Zurich North America.

During his tenure at Zurich, Iordanou needed to consolidate a number of troubled businesses. That meant he wasn’t engaged in building the business to the degree he would have liked.

“You’re putting such an emphasis on remodeling the house that you don’t have time to be adding any rooms to it,” he said.

Iordanou also chafed at not seeing the path that would take him to CEO.

“The CEO at the time did not want to give up the top job and I just didn’t want to be there to have a lot of responsibility and not have the ability to run the company,” he said.

The Founding of Arch

Then came the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 and the drive to bring new capacity to the market in the form of the “Class of 2001.” Arch, Allied World, Axis, Endurance and Montpelier were all formed by the end of that year.

Advertisement




Paul Ingrey was brought out of retirement to run Arch’s reinsurance operations and Iordanou was tapped to head up the U.S. insurance operation.

In that respect, Arch was very different from its classmates, the rest of which were reinsurance companies.

“Our view was that when the market cycle was turning that there would be very good opportunities across the spectrum of insurance,” he said.

Arch’s board made the commitment to sacrifice short-term results in the effort to create a more diverse company.

It’s an effort that is now paying off by the bucket load.

“If you are a mono-line company in a cyclical business and the sector you have dominance in becomes highly competitive, what do you do?” — Dinos Iordanou

“Diversity allows you room to navigate,” Iordanou said.

“If you are a mono-line company in a cyclical business and the sector you have dominance in becomes highly competitive, what do you do?”

Arch’s financial reports show just how successful Iordanou’s approach is.

One area where Arch excels is the program business.

From 2011 to 2012, Arch saw net premiums written growth of 17 percent in programs. That was followed by 23 percent growth from 2012 to 2013.

“We have been in the program business from the beginning, but we have a very disciplined approach,” Iordanou said.

Iordanou’s view is that the managing general underwriters in the program business excel at marketing and distribution but need to be governed by a firm underwriting hand.

“Usually, we look for programs to be an extension of our system as long as our program administrators are willing to have that kind of partnership,” Iordanou said.

Program administrators working with Arch can underwrite business but they must do it within Arch’s pricing guidelines. By net premiums written, programs are the biggest piece of Arch’s primary insurance business. The company is trimming its exposure to property, marine, energy and aviation.

Another area where Arch is distinguishing itself is in the private mortgage insurance business. Arch launched Arch Mortgage Insurance in 2011 and is growing it through acquisitions.

Advertisement




In 2013, Arch bought the assets of the bankrupt Private Mortgage Insurance company, or PMI, for $300 million.

“I think the step into the mortgage business was smart, it was timely and it was quite unique,” said Kelley.

“They were entering at a time when the wind was at their back. As with most ventures, timing is extraordinarily important,” Kelley said.

To Iordanou, the mortgage business move gives him the diversity he craves as much as he craves an Arsenal goal.

“Us buying that asset from PMI creates over time a competitive advantage,” he said.

Don’t think, given Arch’s success, that Iordanou is done innovating.

“For some CEOs, once they’ve built a successful company, they don’t want to take any more chances,” the Hamilton Insurance Group’s Duperreault said.

“Ironically, they become risk averse, and in that process, they make mistakes in trying to avoid them. That’s not Dinos, and he‘s obviously not finished building Arch.”

Loyal to his Roots

Pat Ryan, founder and chairman,Ryan Specialty Group

Pat Ryan, founder and chairman, Ryan Specialty Group

Pat Ryan, founder and chairman of the Chicago-based Ryan Specialty Group, counts Iordanou as a dear friend. He also considers him an industry standout.

“Dinos is very strategic in his thinking and is very definite,” Ryan said.

“He is not unwilling to be a contrarian and in fact I think he kind of likes being a contrarian,” Ryan said.

Ryan, who also founded Aon, said Iordanou’s reverence for his roots and for his family is unshakable.

“Dinos is a very deeply loyal person,” Ryan said of the man who now commands a company with total assets of $22.6 billion.

“He is very proud of his heritage and very proud of his background and he keeps those front of mind.”

Dan Reynolds is editor-in-chief of Risk & Insurance. He can be reached at [email protected]

More from Risk & Insurance

More from Risk & Insurance

Risk Manager Focus

Better Together

Risk managers reveal what they value in their brokers.
By: | June 1, 2017 • 11 min read

Michael K. Sheehan, (left) Managing Director, Marsh and Grant Barkey, Director of Risk Management, Motivate International Inc.

Ask a broker what they can do for you and they will tell you. But let’s ask the risk manager.

What do risk managers really need in a broker? And what do the best brokers do to help risk managers succeed in their jobs?

Chet Porembski, system vice president and deputy general counsel, OhioHealth Corp.

Risk managers say it’s a broker who helps them look knowledgeable and prepared to their bosses. It’s someone who sweeps in like a superhero with an ingenious solution to a difficult problem.

Risk managers want to see brokers bring forth better products year after year. They want a broker who shows up at renewal time with new ideas, not just a rubber stamp.

Great brokers embed with the risk management team and learn everything they can about the company and its leaders. They help risk managers prepare and keep tabs throughout the year on changes at the organization with an eye towards planning the future.

“There’s the broker that sees themselves as just a hired ‘vendor,’ or I should say, somebody that basically just does the job at hand,” said Chet Porembski, system vice president and deputy general counsel at OhioHealth Corp.

“And then there’s the broker that views themselves very much as a business partner.  They truly bring added value to the relationship.”

These brokers look at the tough issues the risk manager is facing and bring in the resources to try to help their client in ways even the client might not have thought about yet. They also do advanced planning that makes the risk manager’s job easier when a problem arises.

“That’s the kind of broker I want.” Porembski said.

And that’s the kind of broker many risk managers need more than ever.

“The only way that the relationship is going to be successful is if you build a tremendous amount of trust.” — Frances Clark, director of risk management and insurance, Sentara Healthcare

That’s because risk managers are under increasing pressure these days. They carry more weight as corporations shrink their departments to cut costs.

Advertisement




Climate change, cyber threats and geopolitical shifts are turning what were once unthinkable losses into risks that are almost commonplace. And this is all happening in an under-insured risk environment, according a study by PwC entitled Broking 2020: Leading from the Front in a New Era of Risk.

Thankfully there are good brokers out there, risk managers say, who can bring more value to a client today than ever before and help ease that fear.

Brokers — the traditional intermediary in the risk transfer chain — do in fact have a tangible and growing role in developing viable and innovative solutions for the risk manager, according to PwC’s study.

They are the “global risk facilitation leaders.”

“[Whatever] organizations are doing in the short term — be this dealing with market instability or just going about day to-day business — they need to be looking at how to keep pace with the sweeping social, technological, economic, environmental and political (STEEP) developments that are transforming the world,” PwC said in the report.

Advisors That Are Getting It Done

Cyber risks are just one growing challenge that all organizations grapple with.

Frances Clark, director of risk management and insurance at Sentara Healthcare, remembers when her broker first suggested that she hold a leadership tabletop cyber drill.

Clark said her broker kept saying, “I know this is going to be a painful experience, but you are going to come out so much better in the long run.”

Frances Clark, director of risk management and insurance, Sentara Healthcare

Her broker was right, and went so far as to help arrange a system-wide drill that included representatives from the legal, finance, security, communications, marketing and medical teams.

They reviewed the many ways a cyber attack can happen and then practiced a response.

“We benefitted greatly from that exercise,” Clark said.

When Doctors on Demand developed a telemedicine app to offer mental health services through mobile devices, the company ran up against insurance limitations across state lines. All states require that the physician giving the advice be licensed in the same state where the patient is located.

The concern was for patient encounters where the patient actually crossed state boundaries during the encounter, due to the utilization of a mobile phone. The patient may have started with a properly licensed physician in the original state, but then crossed into a neighboring state where the physician was not licensed.

Larry Hansard, a regional managing director at Arthur J. Gallagher & Co., and a 2017 Power Broker®, worked to secure medical professional liability coverage without the traditional licensure exclusions placed on medical professionals by insurance carriers.

Advertisement




The initiative he helped develop actually changes how health care can be delivered to patients. It allows the emerging telemedicine sector to now offer services around the world.

Two-thirds of the risk managers in the PwC Broker 2020 survey labeled their brokers as “trusted advisors.” But the same survey found that some participants see their broker as more of a straightforward service provider rather than as a source for solutions.

The survey results indicate there is plenty of room for brokers to bring more value to clients.

OhioHealth’s brokers meet each year with OhioHealth’s risk management team to review insurance coverages.  And when the health system holds quarterly risk management retreats, the brokers attend. They bring with them education and insights on a broad range of topics, from property insurance markets to cyber solutions.

Porembski’s brokers also collaborate with the risk managers when there’s an upcoming presentation on risk issues to senior management. Sometimes the brokers help prepare the presentation, he said.

“We end up looking exceptionally good to our senior leaders and our board,” he said.

Involving the broker in interactions with leaders outside the traditional risk management team has benefits beyond selling products, he said. It extends the relationship circle.

Clark tries not to think of her brokers as outside vendors just providing a service. She wants them to be as committed and knowledgeable about the organization as she is.

“The only way that the relationship is going to be successful is if you build a tremendous amount of trust,” Clark said.

“You have to be completely open and honest about everything, no matter how bad it is, or how bad it may look to the market or underwriters.”

“Once you establish that trusting relationship, I think everything else falls into place,” she adds.

Sentara underwent significant growth recently, acquiring five hospitals in about six years. The expansion required a vast amount of integration on insurance programs and a merger of risk management departments and claims.

Clark said her brokers rolled up their sleeves and expertly navigated her through the consolidation.

“I can’t reiterate enough how most risk managers don’t know how to deal with an M&A unless you’ve gone through it.”

She said she wouldn’t have been able to manage the risk of the mergers without her broker’s counsel.

Grading the Broker

Mike Lubben, director of global risk management at Henry Crown & Co. in Chicago, sets standard expectations of his insurance brokers: know the exposures, understand how a risk manager has to sell ideas internally and understand the urgency of requests.

He lets his brokers know his expectations with regular report cards, complete with letter grades. And he isn’t shy about giving out Fs.

  • How did the broker service the EPLI coverage?
  • Did the broker provide expertise and coverage analysis?
  • Was there anything creative?
  • Did the broker recommend new endorsements based on the previous exposure?
  • Did the broker recommend any risk mitigation programs?
  • How well did he communicate and help with presentations?

“A good broker will think this is fantastic,” Lubben said.

This method starts the conversation. It helps Lubben establish long relationships with some stellar brokers.  But if the broker misses the mark, Lubben can have a talk with them about ways to do better in the future. Some brokers he has sent away.

Recently a broker failed on what Lubben calls “blocking and tackling,” the basics like returning phone calls within one day and responding promptly to emails.

Advertisement




Lubben gave him an “F” on those subjects and told him why. The broker still didn’t improve his game and was eventually replaced.

For many people, insurance can seem very routine from renewal to renewal. But a really good broker will break from routine and come back with some kind of enhancement or improvement.

If the renewal is flat with no change in premium, then Clark says she’ll ask, “What are you going to do for me this year?”

The best brokers are always striving for better, she said.

“Without the brokering community, you would be hard pressed to do your job. I really appreciate what the brokers do, they bring a level of expertise that we can’t possibly have on all lines of coverage.” — Mike Lubben, director of global risk management at Henry Crown & Co.

Motivate International Inc., which operates more than half of the bike share fleets in North America, went through a recent renewal.

Their broker, Marsh, explored more than 10 options with different strategies and programs. In the end, after all of that, they decided the expiring coverage was the best fit.

“Those exercises are very valuable for risk managers,” said Grant Barkey, Motivate’s director of risk management.

“As an innovative company committed to delivering best-in-class services, we believe thorough exploration leads to informed decision-making.”

A good broker understands that a company’s day-to-day operations and a highly effective risk management program have implications for what type of policy should be procured, he said.

Brokers need to partner with risk managers to figure out what those options are, and what the markets are saying and then succinctly relay the information to management.
They also need to have the tact and curiosity to inquire about future plans and figure out what resources might be needed to better serve their client.

When PwC surveyed risk managers, most put their insurance carriers and industry groups ahead of their brokers as the primary source of cyber and supply chain risk solutions; yet these areas are still cited as risk managers’ top concerns.

“Becoming the go-to partners for developing and coordinating innovative and effective solutions in these priority risk areas is at the heart of the commercial opportunity for brokers.” PwC said in its report.

“Yet, our survey suggests that these are important areas where brokers are falling short of the market’s demands and therefore need to adapt.

For example, less than a third of respondents are very satisfied with brokers’ analytical and modelling services across a range of areas.”

When participants were asked how their brokers could be more efficient, respondents put risk analysis at the top of PwC’s survey list. Significantly, more than a third also cited ‘big data’ analysis.

Finding the Right Fit

Paul Kim, Co-CBO of U.S. Retail at Aon Risk Solutions, helps match brokers to risk managers. He keeps in mind that insurance companies tend to sell product, while the clients are looking to manage risks. The right broker assists in mapping risks to existing products and also customizing broad solutions, he said.

“The risk manager’s job has become more complex in the current environment, but there are so many tools available for those individuals to make better informed decisions that truly help protect the overall risk profile of their companies,” Kim said.

Paul Kim, Co-CBO of U.S. Retail, Aon Risk Solutions

That’s why finding the right broker should be first and foremost, he said. Look for an individual with strong industry knowledge, product expertise and market relationships. A strong broker is able to effectively communicate what the risk manager’s goals are to the marketplace to be able to execute and achieve those goals.

“Not every broker can do that,” Kim said.

“Not every broker is the right broker.”

PwC said those brokers who quickly master the art and science of identifying ambiguous threats and then mobilize a broad private/public stakeholder pool to economically manage those risks over time will pull ahead of their competition.

“We’re really generalist,” Lubben said.

“Without the brokering community, you would be hard pressed to do your job. I really appreciate what the brokers do, they bring a level of expertise that we can’t possibly have on all lines of coverage.”

When selecting a broker, the risk manager should also take into account the entire organization behind the broker. Ask about the additional support systems that are available to the broker’s clients.

The company should have a deep bench so when the primary broker is out of the office there’s someone else to rely on who is almost as knowledgeable. The broker organization should also be able to assist you with your budgeting and forecasting from a financial risk perspective.

In PwC’s survey of risk managers, nearly three-quarters want analytics from their broker to help inform their decisionmaking, with concerns over new and emerging risks being a strong driver for this demand.

Clark also thinks it is vitally important for a broker to offer a claims advocate, somebody on the outside, when you are dealing with a carrier on a complicated claim.

“Otherwise you are vulnerable to what the carrier says,” Clark said.

Advertisement




To lead in this new era of risk, it’s also important that brokers forge close relationships with a broader set of stakeholders that includes governments, academia, specialist risk consultancies and even their industry peers, PwC said in the report.

It’s also going to be important to develop shared databases and research capabilities.

In turn, brokers need to assure this diverse stakeholder group that they are the right party to lead.

Clark, at Sentara Healthcare, said she knows what her risk exposures are today, but she’d like her brokers to anticipate her needs before she does.

“It’s kind of crazy, but amazingly some of them do it,” Clark said.

The broker will also use past experience and industry knowledge to anticipate where policy terms and conditions can be tweaked and improved upon.

“They will, say, advise us that we need to change this policy language, and then a year later you have a claim on that and you thank your lucky stars that they changed it,” Clark said.

“It is amazing to me every time it happens.”  &

Juliann Walsh is a staff writer at Risk & Insurance. She can be reached at [email protected]